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Author Topic:   What specific evidence would people require to believe in God's existence?
sidelined
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Message 91 of 222 (381827)
02-02-2007 7:30 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by Greatest I am
01-30-2007 2:14 PM


Re: Belief
Greatest I am
The only thing that will make believers out of non believers is either miracles or a recognition of the Perfection of the systems that God has set in place for us to live in
It is strange that you seem to assume that recognition is somehow a given based on your definition of 'Perfection of systems' when there is no such system in nature.That is of course unless you wish to define perfection in your own way to suit your contentions.
I should add that a direct communication also does the trick.
And this means what? A direct line via bell telephone? Ham radio? ESP?

"The world is so exquisite, with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better, it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look Death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides." - Carl Sagan, Billions and Billions

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Message 98 of 222 (381988)
02-02-2007 7:28 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by Greatest I am
02-02-2007 9:05 AM


Re: Belief
Greatest I am
Our planet is a good place to look for perfect systems
You have already mentioned this. However you have yet to offer an example of perfect system {since the standard definition is ok here we go}
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
Since the onus is on you to back up your claim then I will allow you to clarify matters by offering an example of perfection according to the definitions herein {please follow numbering system to establish which definition you are refering to.} and tell us how the example is perfect in your own words.

"The world is so exquisite, with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better, it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look Death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides." - Carl Sagan, Billions and Billions

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Message 151 of 222 (416815)
08-18-2007 12:39 AM
Reply to: Message 150 by georgeculolias
08-18-2007 12:30 AM


Re: My path from Atheism to faith
georgeculolias
I've found he has helped me, and to me the proof of his existence is in the results of how I choose to live my life
Now you have both my curiousity and your own declaration to satisfy. How is the results of how you live your life proof of God's existence to you?

"The tragedy of life is not so much what men suffer, but rather what they miss."
Thomas Carlyle

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