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Author Topic:   What specific evidence would people require to believe in God's existence?
Faith 
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Message 192 of 222 (710172)
11-02-2013 2:39 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by ringo
11-02-2013 12:49 PM


Evidence leads to faith
Oh good grief, these discussions here are so irrelevant. We DO have evidence, tons of evidence, it's just that you all find ways of debunking and discrediting it. It's on YOU then, not on God. He gave us tons of evidence as recorded in His word, I mean it's chock full of evidence and even in its very existence it is evidence.
You all prefer to think faith is just some kind of airyfairy belief in absolutely nothing, but no, MY faith is in what God has revealed to us in His word. You are all "without excuse" as scripture says. He's done what you want Him to do, He's provided the evidence you demand. Too bad you insist on being blind to it.
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Message 198 of 222 (710255)
11-04-2013 12:16 AM
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11-03-2013 1:21 PM


Re: Evidence leads to faith
It IS extraordinary evidence; too bad you're so stubbornly blind to it.

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Message 201 of 222 (710354)
11-04-2013 7:51 PM
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11-04-2013 10:58 AM


Re: Evidence leads to faith
Sorry, the evidence you are asking for is also falsifiable, nothing extraordinary about it; but the Biblical evidence IS extraordinary, quite equal to its claims. Sorry but that's a fact, and it's on YOU to recognize it.

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Message 206 of 222 (710475)
11-05-2013 3:39 PM
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11-05-2013 10:45 AM


Re: Evidence leads to faith
Sorry if I've been misunderstanding. People usually want extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims, that's the usual refrain here. But you have USUAL evidence too, of course, which you can find in the history of Christianity. There's no need of my trying to review it all, I've learned the hard way at EvC that it's futile. The evidence is all over EvC as it is, given by me and a dozen others, all you have to do is take it seriously. It's your choice.
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Message 207 of 222 (710476)
11-05-2013 3:43 PM
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11-04-2013 8:21 PM


Re: Evidence leads to faith
The Bible is predominantly history designed to demonstrate the existence and nature of God, whereas the writings of other religions are generally predominantly instruction based on an assumption of the reality of God.

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Message 210 of 222 (710480)
11-05-2013 4:25 PM
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11-05-2013 3:54 PM


Re: Evidence leads to faith
The Koran is predominantly instruction, just about no history, designed to teach Muslims what to believe and do, not designed to prove anything about God's existence.
The Torah is of course part of the Bible I'm talking about, predominantly history designed to teach of the existence and nature of God.
Buddhism teaches practices designed to escape the sufferings of the world. In a sense it's not even a religion.
The religions of multiple gods also don't give history. They don't have any. I suppose I should have included the assumption of GODS too. They have lots of interesting fables and tales though and who knows, there may be some reality to some of it though certainly much of it has been embellished. The Greek and Roman gods are really just demons masquerading as gods, as are all the others I'm sure, which the Bible tells us is our legacy since the Fall when Satan earned the right to rule us.
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Message 217 of 222 (710490)
11-05-2013 6:08 PM
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11-05-2013 4:42 PM


Re: Evidence leads to faith
The Rig Veda is not history:
Rigveda - Wikipedia
The Koran gives mostly instruction, as I said. Read it.
I came to Christianity THROUGH reading about other religions.
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Message 218 of 222 (710491)
11-05-2013 6:17 PM
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11-05-2013 4:36 PM


Re: Evidence leads to faith
"First hand account" by Mohammed? Mohammed got his stuff from an entity he called the Angel Gabriel. Oh, along with passages he plagiarized and distorted from the Bible, some pretty laughable stuff there as he confuses characters from both Testaments. There is no "first hand" anything to it. And read it: it's just about nothing but commands and instructions. Except the plagiarized stuff and some other brief parts of it.
Fine, call Buddhism a religion then but only the folk versions involve worship of a deity, which is the Buddha himself.
And are gods and goddesses considered to be a HISTORICAL part of the Trojan war?
But all this merely distracts from the point. The ONLY religious text that is predominantly history DESIGNED TO DEMONSTRATE THE EXISTENCE AND NATURE OF GOD (which the writings of Homer are not) is the Bible.
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