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Author Topic:   Logical Proof of Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound
Greatest I am
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Message 123 of 175 (488155)
11-08-2008 9:05 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by Granny Magda
11-07-2008 6:56 PM


Re: Just another baseless claim
We have no choice. We all get to heaven and if you apply the idea to a God then it just shows what all perfect Gods should do. Never loses a soul.
Most believe that God has a heaven for good souls and a hell for evil ones. All souls are created perfect and are destined for reward.
God does not do oops while creating.
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DL

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Message 125 of 175 (488165)
11-08-2008 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Stile
11-08-2008 10:10 AM


Re: Just another baseless claim
Have I not done that here?
I did say there was no proof.
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DL

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Message 127 of 175 (488170)
11-08-2008 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by Granny Magda
11-08-2008 12:22 PM


Re: Just another baseless claim
Thanks for the advise but "In reality, all you have is speculation."
does not apply. Speculation is built on imagination. I am aware of when I use my imagination. I am aware when I do not. A specific event prompted my thinking. Not a self created scenario.
What kind of fool would say that he spoke to God and the message is think demographically. If I were to use even a small amount of imagination I hope I could come up with a better word of wisdom than that. On the surface the message is meaningless. Only looking at it in depth dose one gleam why I and others should think this way. Try it to see if it is a wise thing to do. If yes then the message is plausible. If not, from my point of view, it falls on death ears.
If so then you will have to look elsewhere for wisdom.
This I cannot control. All I can control is what I say and try to speak the truth in what my views are.
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DL

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Message 129 of 175 (488177)
11-08-2008 1:18 PM


If I were just expressing imaginary thoughts or outright lying then one would wonder as to what is motivating this untruth.
There is no profit in the type of discussion that my claims make. I have nothing to gain by my position other than ridicule.
Why would any one open themselves to ridicule. I can think of no reason, other than just fun. I find no fun in not being believed.
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DL

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Message 131 of 175 (488181)
11-08-2008 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by Vacate
11-08-2008 1:42 PM


Re: Why bother?
Jesus wanted to upgrade the thinking of His time.
It is true that I too want to do the same.
As to converting others, when we reach heaven God does not care which God we follow as long as our hearts are good. Whatever that means to each of us.
None are refused regardless of our moral condition at death.
I can only do what I think my duty to God and my fellow man dictates.
I can only express my God's ideas of morality. If they are the same for the reader then I do not care what he call his God. It is the philosophy that is important, not the name of God.
If one must lie to express his God then I would think that their God is weird. Like fundamentals who believe in talking snakes. If it takes such to express their God then those intelligent enough to reject this impossibility are right in looking elsewhere for God.
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DL

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Message 133 of 175 (488188)
11-08-2008 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by Vacate
11-08-2008 2:28 PM


Re: Why bother?
" Some people do it so often they are said to be "lying for jesus", apparently honestly is not an important quality."
To me it is an imperative.
I have a bad memory and would get caught if I lied. This, if nothing else keeps me straight.
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DL

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Message 135 of 175 (488190)
11-08-2008 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by Blue Jay
11-08-2008 3:39 PM


If we are meat to God then He should keep out of our affairs.
If He wants to be relevant to us then He must speak our language to e understood.
If not then He is as irrelevant to man as we are irrelevant to ants.
To my knowledge Man is the only one who can recognize the notion of God.
It is not God's fault if we have grossly overblown what He is.
The first God was a man and the last should be as well. He speaks human.
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DL

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Message 138 of 175 (488202)
11-08-2008 5:34 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Blue Jay
11-08-2008 5:03 PM


Good. I like agreement.
God does not eat by the way.
Do you expect that when God, you will use miracles.
It is my view that if God has them and does not use them then He is acting in an immoral way by letting His children starve to death.
Would I be right?
Regards
DL

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Message 139 of 175 (488203)
11-08-2008 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by Brian
11-08-2008 4:00 PM


Re: Just another baseless claim
Old prophets were venerated and wrote scripture. New prophets are at best insane. Good view. Not.
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DL

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