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bluescat48
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Message 60 of 413 (493793)
01-10-2009 7:52 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by John 10:10
01-10-2009 7:27 PM


Allah of the Quran is not the Yahweh God of the Bible, and Muhammad is not Yahweh God's messenger.
O really? Them why is Islam an Abrahamic religion just as Christianity & Judaism.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Message 72 of 413 (493856)
01-11-2009 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by Buzsaw
01-11-2009 12:03 AM


Re: Where's the evidence?
DA writes:
Why should we trust this 2000 year old book. Why should we not trust the Quran, the Book of Mormon and the Pearl of Great Price, the Tanakh (the Hebrew Bible), the Theravada and the Mahayana (Buddhism), the Gaudiya Vaishnavism and Sruti (Hinduism), the Gnostic Gospels, the Apocrypha, Dianetics (Scientology), or the Avesta (Zoroasterism). I could go on but I won't.
Buzsaw writes
Easy. Lack of evidence needful to justify faith in all of the above but the Hebrew Bible.
OK, Where is this evidence? All thesr works deal in the supernatural so where is the difference?

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Message 85 of 413 (493911)
01-11-2009 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by John 10:10
01-11-2009 4:55 PM


So did an actual tongues of fire light on your head when you became a Christian? Did you speak in tongues (and yes I know there are different interpretations of what this actually means i.e. foreign languages, unknown language of heaven, etc)?
And how do you know that it is of God and not the devil that is decieving you into thinking you are a Christian? And if you give me a biblical scripture again you just adding more layers onto your circular logic.
How do you know that what happened in Acts 1 & 2 did not really happen? You don't! All you know is that you don't believe it and reject it as God's truth.
How do you know that you are not the one being deceived by rejecting Acts 1 & 2 as God's truth?
If you want to believe that I'm deceived because I base my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ on receiving the same experience as the believers in Acts 1 & 2 received, then so be it, but I've been in good company for 2000 years now.
You don't, which is why I am skeptical of such things without any corroboration.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Message 91 of 413 (493926)
01-11-2009 7:08 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by John 10:10
01-11-2009 5:22 PM


You have every right to be skeptical, but I am not skeptical because what I read about in Acts 1 & 2 has happened to me, and to countless others for 2000 years now.
Such as?

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Message 122 of 413 (494024)
01-12-2009 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by John 10:10
01-12-2009 12:38 PM


Why do you refuse to answer any questions directly? Biblical passages are not answers to these questions.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Message 188 of 413 (494659)
01-17-2009 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 186 by RAZD
01-17-2009 11:58 AM


Re: A typical YEC black box set, for example
You know this, I know this and a number of others on this forum know this. The problem is the ones who don't know this because of the "black box" mentality sort of a super "can't see the forest for the trees."

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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bluescat48
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Message 196 of 413 (494684)
01-17-2009 7:18 PM
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01-17-2009 3:45 PM


Re: A typical YEC black box set, for example
ps - did you escape the big freeze? My bro lives in Fitchburg.
Right now 7:16 PM Temp 14o F

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Message 213 of 413 (494866)
01-19-2009 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 208 by Dawn Bertot
01-19-2009 11:14 AM


Re: Why I am not confident
I find the latter part of this comment very unusual. Even the casual reader and any thinking person can see that the Koran is much younger in textual evidence and that it borrows heavily from both the Old and NT in its content. It does not contain even a tenth of the historical and archeological value and content of that of the scriptures,Old or New.
I don't see where you are coming from. Both the OT & NT borrow from other sources ie the flood story & the Magi. The flood story from Babylonia & the Magi story from Persia. As for historical content, I see no historical verification to much of the Biblical stories ie the Exodus, particularly the Plagues which, if they occurred, should should have been widely told through out the entire middle east. Obviously some thing like the sudden death of the first born of all Egypt is not some thing that happens all the time and would have been "Big News."
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Edited by bluescat48, : missing phrase

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Message 222 of 413 (495123)
01-20-2009 11:54 PM
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01-20-2009 10:37 PM


CONTENT HIDDEN
{Non-topic blather ontent hidden. Bluescat48 seems to be one of our primary purveyors of such. Stop it. - Adminnemooseus}
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : See above.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Message 317 of 413 (495946)
01-25-2009 8:34 AM


Why so friggin confident
In this topic there are 2 extremes.
1) God exists & Jesus was his son
2) God does not exist & Jesus, if he existed, is not god's son.
The evidence presented to show why a person is confident gets lost in the answers. If a person is confident that God (Yahweh) exists then there must be some physical evidence to such. That is what the questioner is asking. If one is confident solely on scripture with nothing to back it up, then simply say so and shut up. If one asks why then give a reason for the answer other than using one line of scripture to show evidence of another.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Message 339 of 413 (496166)
01-26-2009 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 326 by John 10:10
01-25-2009 3:58 PM


Re: Round and round we go, where we stop John 10:10 doesn't even know?
I remember a bunch of prophets of Baal once challenged Elijah to a God contest on Mt Carmel. The prophets of Baal lost, and so will Thor, Zeus, Shiva, El, Flying Spaghetti Monster, or any other god who thinks they can challenge the true God of the Bible.
That would be fine if there was any corroborative evidence to the statement other that the Bible, which is prejudiced toward the God of Abraham.
Edited by bluescat48, : typo (what else)

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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bluescat48
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Message 347 of 413 (496296)
01-27-2009 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 344 by DevilsAdvocate
01-27-2009 9:10 AM


Re: Paging the Infallible John 10:10
Excellent post!!! Hits like a 20lb sledge. Points that need to be infused into the Topic to show just what is & was and where all came from.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
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Message 348 of 413 (496297)
01-27-2009 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 346 by John 10:10
01-27-2009 12:35 PM


Re: Paging the Infallible John 10:10
God sovereignly gave the land of Israel to Abraham.....
So says you but where is the physical evidence that any of this occurred?

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Message 360 of 413 (496387)
01-27-2009 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 355 by Dawn Bertot
01-27-2009 10:45 PM


Re: Round and round we go, where we stop John 10:10 doesn't even know?
That would be fine if there was any corroborative evidence to the statement other that the Bible, which is prejudiced toward the God of Abraham.
Laughing really hard while reading. Blues you are a trip, I swear. Your posts are very comical to me.
Clue me in. Wheres the comedy. I asked for corroborating evidence, please supply.
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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Message 379 of 413 (496505)
01-28-2009 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 372 by John 10:10
01-28-2009 12:04 PM


Re: Not the same form of question
Christians at this forum present the truth that we have experienced in our relationship with the God of the Bible that we know, love and serve, and then leave the results to Him; i.e., it's up to God to confirm and prove to unbelievers that what we are saying is true, not us.
How do you know what the Christians on this board think or do you even know which members are Christians for that matter?

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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