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Author Topic:   Why so friggin' confident?
onifre
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Message 220 of 413 (495082)
01-20-2009 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by Modulous
01-20-2009 4:13 PM


Quick correction...
I'd rather have 72 virgins nagging me for eternity
Just wanted to point out that they'd only be virgins for the first 72 days, then they're just regular chics for eternity.
Also, it's not gender specific, it could be 72 dudes playing Dungeons and Dragons and wearing Battle Star Galactica t-shirts. Hey you said you wanted virgins, right...?

"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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onifre
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Message 252 of 413 (495227)
01-21-2009 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by ICANT
01-21-2009 3:58 PM


Re: So why are YOU confident?
Hi ICANT,
As a 9 year and 11 month old boy I believed those words, upon believing them I put my spirit in God's hands to take care of. He gave me all the faith I needed then and has supplied all I have needed from then until now.
Would you trust a 9 year to properly evaluate a situation, weigh both sides of an argument and render a decision based off of his/her 9 year old reasoning?
I have a 9 year old daughter. I can assure you that her reasoning abilities and her ability to interpret and evaluate evidence, within the context of this topic, are in no way adequate enough. How could anyone base a lifetime of belief on something that was determined to be true when you were a 9 year old kid? Do you still believe in Santa? Easter bunny? Unicorns and faries? That He-Man is a real dude? That a cow actually jumped over the moon? I would think that you don't, and why would you, those were things that were believed as a child.
You say you only had 1 book to read. Doesn't seem like you had any other option other than to believe what it says, especially when the book is said to be the word of God. How could a child at such a young influential age have the courage to question a book said to be the word of God, AND with the ever lingering fear of eternal hell?
What you are describing is textbook indoctrination. You had a limited exposure to the facts about reality and accepted the first thing that you read. How do you not see the flaw in this?

"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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onifre
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Message 284 of 413 (495564)
01-23-2009 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 279 by John 10:10
01-23-2009 11:21 AM


Re: Correction
Hi John,
Pure and simple, it's "folly" to place one's belief in our existance coming from nothing to a beginning, then onward to millions of plant/animal/human life forms, all without a Divine Creator creating and guiding every step of the way.
I don't think anyone has argued against the posibility of a Divine Creator, just that "why are you so friggin' confident" in one particular one?
If God guilded every step of the way He did so without leaving any trace of His work; He made everything look naturally ordered. So either He concealed it for reasons beyond our understanding or humans created God because nature was beyound their understanding. In either case no 'absolute belief' can be held since no evidence is available to falsify either one. So the question remains, "why so friggin' confident about one particular God?"

"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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onifre
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Message 298 of 413 (495676)
01-23-2009 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 296 by Percy
01-23-2009 8:28 PM


Re: Paging the Infallible John 10:10
So if I ignore God, what's going to happen to me that's just as real as hitting the ground after falling a hundred stories?
I see a Bible quote coming...

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