Bible Question: What was the First Sin?

The first sin? Hmmm...Medeival christian priests believed the first sin was SEX. I don't know for sure. The fundamentalists taught me that it was literally eating a literal fruit from a literal tree of knowledge against YHWH's command not to. Nakedness seems to be a good option given that the priests SEX idea comes into play. Maybe. But when I read carefully that part about the serpent being condemed to life on it's belly, then it's obvious the serpent wasn't going around on it's belly BEFORE YHWH cursed it. Could Eve have boogied with the serpent? What do you think?

It would appear that the "serpent" got Adam&Eve thrown out of Eden, if we are to believe the christian myth of the fall. Conservative x-ians would say that Adam&Eve really did die in a spiritual sense, as YHWH warned them, but YHWH isn't specific on the matter. Some x-ians assume that Eve thought YHWH was testing her. Or they assume as I did that Eve was stupid and gullible. This seems to be where Jews,x-ians,& muslims get the silly idea that women are the "weaker-sex" as espoused by St.Paul. Well, the story I think, clearly is a brilliantly written myth by "Moses" to explain why men and women have differences, sexually and otherwise, and to explain why humans have a hard time living on earth. What was the first sin? My thinking is that it was probably sex-related, regardless of what the serpent may have done with Eve. AdamEve ate of the tree of the Knowledge of Good&Evil. The knowledge of WHAT good&evil?? The context seems to clue us in here. Adam was "lonely". Adam said, "NOW(WOW)this is bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh"!!, Clothes were made to cover their "nakedness" AND Eve is now cursed with great pain in childbirth. I can hear YHWH complaining to his divine-counsel, "Why did those two do THAT without my permission? Blast-It! Now they can create like We can. We must limit them before they "eat of the tree of life", & overpopulate the planet!!"[This message has been edited by Prozacman, 10-15-2003]

The site you have referenced does jive with what I am learning about how people of different faiths other than christianity understand Satan. I was a christian at one time, and I did have this dualist belief that the angel Satan was over and against the christian god, as opposed to being just H's "robot" as you seem to believe. I understand now that the figure of Satan had evolved in the minds of some Jews in the last few centuries BC. One may pick up afew books on the subject of Satan if one is so inclined: "Satan, A Biography,

Good! I'm glad you don't believe that(YIKES!); Anyway it appears to be a Jewish idea. The early christians, especially St. Paul decided to more directly individualize Satan and make him oppose God.(see The Devil:A biography,Peter Stanford,pp.68-70). And there definitely is a poor plotline for Satan in the OT&NT. Satan seems to go from being "YHWH's obedient prosecutor" to an enemy of YHWH without spelling out exactly how & why it happened. The author I just referenced clues us in with the mention of a few of the intertestament books like Enoch, Jubilees,`Wisdom, Testament of Reuben(sandwich!), etc. He writes that these Apocryphal books help fill in the gaps in how Satan evolves. I hope to read some copies of these books in the near future, and reference them here on this forum for anyone curious.[This message has been edited by Prozacman, 10-16-2003]

And, not only adding in his(Satan's) presence, but also making him more malevolent and anti-YHWH as history proceeds. Cf. my reference to Asgara, #71, on "The Devil;A biography", Peter Stanford; a fascinating read.[This message has been edited by Prozacman, 10-16-2003]

And a GOOD book on the 'J' tradition, if one hasn't read it yet is, "the Book of 'J', By Harold Bloom, 1990. Fascinating read.