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ThingsChange
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Message 44 of 126 (306688)
04-26-2006 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by 1.61803
04-24-2006 10:06 PM


are you trying for a record on replies to one post?
I am a monist, by your definition
... except for a past event when God borrowed water from one parallel universe, flooded Earth in our universe, and then returned to the water to the parallel universe where they worship God and the "Great Evaporation" miracle.

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ThingsChange
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Message 48 of 126 (306702)
04-26-2006 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Buzsaw
04-25-2006 8:30 PM


Just ONE universe? How can you prevent others?
Buz writes:
There is only one many faceted material and that material is everything that exists in the universe, including Jehovah, creator himself.
That is a rather limiting assumption.
Just because we experience the aquarium of matter and laws in this "universe" does not prevent other universes from existing (in which we do not and cannot experience).
And, if God exists and is all-powerful, then He must govern all universes, right? Or, maybe He is only all-powerful in this universe.
As an example, if you trace-back cause-and-effect to a "beginning" (which actually may not be a beginning but rather just the end of a previous expansion/contraction), then the initial conditions that led us to this point could have had an infinite number of variations, of which we are just one. But how could you deny that the other permutations exist? You can't. You just can't experience them. But, you can't assume that other permutations do not exist, either.
Of course, there are also an infinite number of "physical law" combinations, as well.

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ThingsChange
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Message 57 of 126 (307687)
04-29-2006 8:37 AM
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04-28-2006 9:45 PM


Re: Just ONE universe? How can you prevent others?
Buzsaw writes:
You can't have more than one [universe]
You cannot flatly state that as fact.
You and some other Creationists want to insist on that stance, however, because once you realize that other universes are possible, and perhaps even likely, then the whole idea of purpose of existence due to uniqueness and "this couldn't be random" is weakened.

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