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lfen
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Message 62 of 126 (309047)
05-04-2006 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by robinrohan
04-26-2006 8:12 AM


Re: He is the original I AM, we're derivative i am's
The world we experience is not real?
This is a good candidate for an OP. You should start on thread on this question.
First thing that enters my head is what about moving pictures. You go and see a series of stills flashed on a screen and perceive motion. This is just an example. It is established that atoms are mostly space so what is solidity?
So what do you mean by experience? Sensory perception? Memory?
lfen

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lfen
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Message 72 of 126 (309246)
05-04-2006 10:58 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by iano
05-04-2006 8:03 PM


Re: He is the original I AM, we're derivative i am's
That's a good quote but I like this one even better:
Feynman served on the commission investigating the 1986 Challenger disaster. "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled."
Richard Feynman - Wikipedia
As to vacuous and ignorant I think your statement is a revealing projection on your part but tells us nothing about Feynman.
lfen
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lfen
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Message 73 of 126 (309249)
05-04-2006 11:07 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by robinrohan
05-04-2006 7:29 PM


Re: He is the original I AM, we're derivative i am's
I mean he thinks that reality is mental in nature (or "spiritual"--same thing). I don't think that.
That is ususally the position I am working on. Though I am also trying to figure out if there are aspects to matter/energy that with sufficient complexity gives rise to consciousness as an emergent phenomena. That is to say does energy have some kind of inner qualities that an organism with a nervous system can access as qualia?
lfen

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lfen
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Message 80 of 126 (309389)
05-05-2006 1:06 PM
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05-05-2006 6:07 AM


Re: He is the original I AM, we're derivative i am's
Empty handed I entered the world.
Barefoot I leave it.
My coming, my going -
Two simple happenings
That got entangled.
Kozan Ichikyo, Death Poem
1583-1660

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lfen
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Message 96 of 126 (316936)
06-01-2006 10:50 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by 1.61803
06-01-2006 5:00 PM


Re: Poll update
I'm a monist.
I read some of Rob's essay and I'm pretty sure he is a dualist. He is certainly dead set against monism that much was clear.
lfen

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