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Topic: Come and get me, right wingers!
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Trump won 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1271 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 136 of 174 (136932)
08-26-2004 12:48 AM
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Reply to: Message 131 by jar
08-26-2004 12:33 AM
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Re: Actually, what I said was....
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No, just a few off the top of my head.
Job, Esther, etc etc... I don't think there are many that could fit that criteria. Keep in mind books that tell like stories may fit your theory but that does not mean they never happened.
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Mark was likely written between 65-75CE, Matthew sometime later, probably after 75CE, Luke is likely from even later, probably between 90 and 100 CE while John was probably post 100 CE. The Gospel of Thomas may have been the first written down.
This isn't evidence. This message has been edited by messenjaH of oNe, 08-25-2004 11:51 PM This message has been edited by messenjaH of oNe, 08-25-2004 11:52 PM This message has been edited by messenjaH of oNe, 08-25-2004 11:53 PM
peace
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jar
Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 137 of 174 (136936)
08-26-2004 12:53 AM
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Reply to: Message 136 by Trump won
08-26-2004 12:48 AM
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Re: Actually, what I said was....
You might want to do some research on the Synoptic Problem and the history of the Gospels. It's fascinating.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Trump won
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Message 138 of 174 (136937)
08-26-2004 12:58 AM
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Reply to: Message 137 by jar
08-26-2004 12:53 AM
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Re: Actually, what I said was....
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Trump won
Suspended Member (Idle past 1271 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 139 of 174 (136940)
08-26-2004 1:13 AM
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Reply to: Message 138 by Trump won
08-26-2004 12:58 AM
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Re: Actually, what I said was....
Wait a minute Job's long dialogues, the arguments with his friends. This could not be a story told around the fire. What was I thinking. This message has been edited by messenjaH of oNe, 08-26-2004 12:13 AM
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Trump won
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Message 140 of 174 (136941)
08-26-2004 1:15 AM
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The gospels reveal something so intimate about God, they had to have known Jesus.
peace
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One_Charred_Wing
Member (Idle past 6186 days) Posts: 690 From: USA West Coast Joined: 11-21-2003
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Message 141 of 174 (136949)
08-26-2004 2:23 AM
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Reply to: Message 134 by Trump won
08-26-2004 12:43 AM
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Re: Actually, what I said was....
Messenjah writes: I believe it's important that it actually happened I don't understand why. If the parables are to be taken seriously and didn't happen, why would it make a difference if other biblical events were fictional?
Words like that I feel, couldn't have never happened, like wrote by some philosopher in his house. Other religions come up with very similar stuff of equal magnititude. You don't believe they all happened, do you?
Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit. http://www.BadPreacher.5u.com (incomplete, but look anyway!)
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Trump won
Suspended Member (Idle past 1271 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Re: Actually, what I said was....
Yeah they could have, you're really giving me nothing to go with.
peace
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joshua221
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Message 143 of 174 (137053)
08-26-2004 1:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 125 by jar
08-25-2004 11:51 PM
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Re: Actually, what I said was....
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So no answer for the question I asked?
Does it matter if the events related in the parables actually happened or were simply stories told to illustrate a point?
Again, you are wrong is asking this question, parables told by Jesus are truly different then what you are deeming "stories" of the Bible. BTW Address this No (for the question) But, you are thinking that if I will admit to the parables not happening, then of course I will see the logic, and understand that what you are calling "stories" of the Bible also did not happen, but were put in the Bible to maybe illustrate a point, Jar You did not address this in post 125, maybe I can count on you for the next reply...
"Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you." Ephesians 5:14
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joshua221
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Message 144 of 174 (137059)
08-26-2004 1:30 PM
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Charles Knight
Charles Knight, will you please follow through with the promise? (Disproving the Bible's campfire stories.) Or wait did you mean (Proving the stories are fiction?) Yeah that's what you meant, respond AsAp.
"Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you." Ephesians 5:14
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Trump won
Suspended Member (Idle past 1271 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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It's not being real. If a man named Jesus never told those parables and some writer made them up, then it's fake. I can't believe something that never happened. I put my faith in Jesus that he actually said those parables, that he existed that he walked on this earth, that he changed the world. I can't accept the possibility that The genius that Christ spoke never was spoken. I believe in things that existed and took place. I can't put my faith in mother goose.
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One_Charred_Wing
Member (Idle past 6186 days) Posts: 690 From: USA West Coast Joined: 11-21-2003
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As long as He's there
I can't put my faith in mother goose. Well said; I can't either. Now, Jesus is one thing I do believe existed. There's too much hustle and bustle about His birthday and such to deny that something went down about 2000 years ago that's still in effect today. Right now I'm studying this point on my own time, reading about accounts of a 'historical Jesus', who isn't that much different than the Biblical Jesus aside from a few less miracles. Jesus is the Son of God, so naturally His existence is more important to me than any other person depicted in the Bible. If He's real and authentic, then there must be a God who sent Him down. If that's the case, I can be certain there is a God who is infinitely righteous. That's all I need; who cares if some of the older stories are morality plays.
Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit. http://www.BadPreacher.5u.com (incomplete, but look anyway!)
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 643 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Well, that is a big assumption. Considering that the writer of the Gospel of Matthew didn't even get his facts for the geography of
Jerusalum right, and Luke plainly says he is writing down the stories
written by other people, that is an assumption that is contradicted by the gospels themselves.
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jar
Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Actually, what I said was....
BTW Address this Okay.
But, you are thinking that if I will admit to the parables not happening, then of course I will see the logic, and understand that what you are calling "stories" of the Bible also did not happen, but were put in the Bible to maybe illustrate a point, Jar You did not address this in post 125, maybe I can count on you for the next reply... Try again because I don't have a clue what you are asking.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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coffee_addict
Member (Idle past 508 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 03-29-2004
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Re: Charles Knight
prophex writes: ...respond AsAp.
Um... he has a life outside of this forum, you know. Not everybody has as much free time as you.
The Laminator
We are the bog. Resistance is voltage over current.
For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November!
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Trump won
Suspended Member (Idle past 1271 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Re: Charles Knight
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Um... he has a life outside of this forum, you know. Not everybody has as much free time as you.
hahaha dood you have over 1000 posts, I find that funny you say that. I guess I see why, jumping into other people's conversations, and adding your thoughts can get that many I guess.
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