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AdminNosy
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Message 256 of 414 (137584)
08-28-2004 3:01 AM
Reply to: Message 243 by suaverider
08-27-2004 11:52 PM


Be careful of plagerism
Here, I'd suggest that even if the wording is not identical taking others material and not acknowledging that is equivalent to plagerism and is dishonest.
I'll do a quick check on this too. If it is as similar to some source as your first post was it had better be the last dishonest post you make. The next one will get you suspended.
Added by edit:
Blog et actualits en France et dans le monde
is the source of this material
Any further dishonesty will earn you a suspension.
In addition, it is off topic, continued willfull topic hoping will also earn you a suspension.
You are also required to support your assertions. You don't seem to be doing that. Continuation of such behaviour and --- a suspension.
Do you notice the thread running through this?
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Message 257 of 414 (137585)
08-28-2004 3:06 AM
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08-28-2004 3:01 AM


Ned ...
It is copied. The identical list appears on many websites. Just Google one of the questions and it shows up multiple times.

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AdminNosy
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Message 258 of 414 (137586)
08-28-2004 3:10 AM
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08-28-2004 3:06 AM


Nosy replies
Got that, thanks, eta.
Let's try to stay on topic no matter what suave steals from somewhere. Ok?

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Message 259 of 414 (137610)
08-28-2004 11:32 AM
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08-28-2004 3:01 AM


Re: Be careful of plagerism
I didn't get my information from that site but it seems to have some good information thank you.
what is wrong with my info. no matter where I get it if its against evolution I am told its from a creationist site and it doesn't count that's kind of a loaded question for me to find a site where evolutionists want me to find an evolution site that shows there errors why would they do that.

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crashfrog
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Message 260 of 414 (137611)
08-28-2004 11:35 AM
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08-28-2004 11:32 AM


what is wrong with my info.
You need to make sure that, when you post stuff you haven't written yourself, you make the proper attribution. Otherwise it's plagarism.
Nobody's saying you can't post stuff from whatever sites you like, but you have to say where you got it from, or you're being dishonest.

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Message 261 of 414 (137612)
08-28-2004 11:37 AM
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08-28-2004 3:10 AM


Re: Nosy replies
I didn't steal that information where did you get yours most of us read or go to school and are taught information they didn't get it by themselves.

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Message 262 of 414 (137613)
08-28-2004 11:38 AM
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08-28-2004 11:35 AM


OK ill post where I get it from now on.

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crashfrog
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Message 263 of 414 (137614)
08-28-2004 11:40 AM
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08-28-2004 11:37 AM


I didn't steal that information where did you get yours most of us read or go to school and are taught information they didn't get it by themselves.
But when we cut and paste stuff from other sites, we say where we got it from. When we employ other people's information or reasoning in our own, we give credit where credit is due.
Didn't they teach you that in school?

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Message 264 of 414 (137615)
08-28-2004 11:45 AM
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08-28-2004 11:38 AM


You need to do more than just cut and paste, even with attribution. We discuss things here and you are expected to make and defend your point of view. Afterall, we are not debating some web page.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 265 of 414 (137617)
08-28-2004 11:47 AM
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08-28-2004 11:40 AM


I haven't seen anyone so far saying where they got any of there information.

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Message 266 of 414 (137618)
08-28-2004 11:48 AM
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08-28-2004 11:47 AM



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crashfrog
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Message 267 of 414 (137619)
08-28-2004 11:53 AM
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08-28-2004 11:47 AM


I haven't seen anyone so far saying where they got any of there information.
Well, a number of them are actually professionals in biological fields, so they got their information first-hand, through experiment, training, and research.
The rest of us are generally referring to well-known sources or aren't making controversial claims, so we generally omit the sources unless someone asks.
You're free to challenge us for a source for any claim you'd like supported, of course. Just as we're free to challenge you for your sources.
If you want a source for a particularly controversial claim, just ask.

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crashfrog
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Message 268 of 414 (137621)
08-28-2004 11:56 AM
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08-28-2004 11:48 AM


Hrm, you still don't quite get it, yet.
You have to make your own arguments, because you're participating in the debate. We can't debate with the author of that website because he isn't here.
It's fine, again, for you to use material other people have written, if you tell us where it's from, but you can't use it instead of making your own arguments. You can only use it to support your own arguments.
You're here. The author of that site is not. It's you we want to debate with, not him.

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suaverider
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Message 269 of 414 (137627)
08-28-2004 12:43 PM
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08-28-2004 11:56 AM


yes I understand I have to show where I get the information I post and cannot claim it as my own.

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AdminNosy
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Message 270 of 414 (137629)
08-28-2004 12:52 PM
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08-28-2004 12:43 PM


No not quite
yes I understand I have to show where I get the information I post and cannot claim it as my own.
Yes, but that is only part of it.
You needn't bother posting it at all unless you understand it and are able to support it in ongoing discussion. You are posting material that has been shown to be hogwash many times before. You have no idea what the sites you are copying are talking about (and, in many cases, neither do they ).
It is up to you to make the points. You don't even have to offer your sources unless asked. However, if you simple copy stuff that you don't understand and can't or won't defend you are not debating in good faith.

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