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Lysimachus Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 380 Joined: |
AdminAsqara,
I want my post back, and NOT a LINK. If you do not do this, I will give no peace until you do. Did you not think I had a reason for doing so? I wanted to highlight some information, and bolden some words for the audience to focus on. Did you not notice this? Putting a link to an article just doesn't cut it. I want it IN THE THREAD, as links tend to cause laziness, and people just do not read links as thoroughly. I want the article plain and clear in this board...I pasted that directly from a Microsoft Word Document I had stored on My HD...and it was a lot of work to write the formatting code for this board. This was not very nice nor respectfuly of you to do in the least--especially after knowing how much work it really cost me. ~Lysimachus
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Lysimachus Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 380 Joined: |
quote: Show me how I spammed? I disagree. Simple as that. ~Lysimachus
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Lysimachus Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 380 Joined: |
Dan, is that a way to avoid the overall point I am trying to make?
There is no physical threat in what I said. It's simple, the Bible makes it clear that all who do not believe in His name will perish. So the Bible is physically threatening you I presume? You as well as others admit your unbelief by stating the prophecies of scripture are false, and have not and are not coming to pass. The Bible simply states what will happen to people who disbelieve. It's not me you're having a problem with, it's with the Bible--since you see "the Bible is physically threatening you". To me, having the Bible tell us of our doom if we do not believe is an act of Love and Mercy from God so that we may escape these judgments. But what you're telling me is that even if God destroys those who outwardly dissobey (even after he's given them a chance), that is an "unloving God". This is a false concept. The whole Bible was written for the Love of mankind--to save them, not to destroy them. Whenever anything to do with "perdition" is emphasized regarding scripture, it's ALWAYS connected with a big "IF". That "IF" is what demonstrates God's love for the world. You're looking at what I said in a completely wrong way. Same with me. "IF" I do not follow God and his commandments, the impending calamities will befall me TOO! Now I just put myself in your same boat. Feel better now? This message has been edited by Lysimachus, 09-20-2004 03:49 PM This message has been edited by Lysimachus, 09-20-2004 03:55 PM ~Lysimachus
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
It's simple, the Bible makes it clear that all who do not believe in His name will perish. So the Bible is physically threatening you I presume? It would certainly seem that way. Worship God or die? How is that not a threat?
The Bible simply states what will happen to people who disbelieve. Of course, these events are ones over which God has control. (What with his being... y'know, God and everything.) So basically, God's holding a gun to my head and saying "I'll pull this trigger if you don't worship me. Hey, don't get offended... I'm just stating what'll happen." Feelin' the love, let the holy light shine! "Good evening. I'm playing the role of Jesus; a man once portrayed on the big screen by Jeffery Hunter. You may remember him as the actor who was replaced by William Shatner on Star Trek. Apparently Mr. Hunter was good enough to die for our sins, but not quite up to the task of seducing green women." -Stewie Griffin
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
If people like Jar, PaulK, Brian, Charles Knight, mark24, Dan Carrol, mike the wiz, and many others that do not fear God and repent, they WILL NOT receive the necessary shelter to escape the calamities that will befall the earth and continue to escalate. No problems, mate. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Oops, there's more...
But what you're telling me is that even if God destroys those who outwardly dissobey (even after he's given them a chance), that is an "unloving God". This is a false concept. Y'know, it's weird... I've loved some people in my day. That love inspired me to... y'know, not kill them. Maybe I've been going about this whole love thing all wrong, I dunno.
Same with me. "IF" I do not follow God and his commandments, the impending calamities will befall me TOO! Now I just put myself in your same boat. Feel better now? Not really. Just means God's threatening you too. Why would that make me feel better? I disagree with you... that doesn't mean I think that someone much stronger than you should threaten you with death. "Good evening. I'm playing the role of Jesus; a man once portrayed on the big screen by Jeffery Hunter. You may remember him as the actor who was replaced by William Shatner on Star Trek. Apparently Mr. Hunter was good enough to die for our sins, but not quite up to the task of seducing green women." -Stewie Griffin
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1498 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Hi, remember these rules you agreed to when you registered?
quote: By what rationale did you feel you got to ignore the rule? I'm just curious. This message has been edited by crashfrog, 09-20-2004 04:08 PM
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: Can I in all honestly tell you to stick your warning where the sun don't shine?
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AdminAsgara Administrator (Idle past 2333 days) Posts: 2073 From: The Universe Joined: |
I hate to break it to you hun, but people who can't be bothered to thoroughly read a linked article won't be paying much attention, if any, to that same article posted here.
I don't let others get away with the huge cut and pastes when I see them, and I don't see why you would need special treatment. Please read our Forum Guidelines, specifically numbers 5 and 10.
edited in extraneous grammatical errors - The Queen This message has been edited by AdminAsgara, 09-20-2004 04:10 PM AdminAsgara Queen of the Universe http://asgarasworld.bravepages.com http://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1498 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
To me, having the Bible tell us of our doom if we do not believe is an act of Love and Mercy from God so that we may escape these judgments. "To me, having my husband tell how he's gonna give me a black eye if I don't grab him a beer and finish the dishes is an act of Love and Mercy so that I might escape these judgements."
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Suppose that I did believe in God, and that I did believe this threat. What am I supposed to do? Go to church, kneel, and say, "I love you, God"? How is a threat supposed to cause me to actually love God, for real, in my heart? How many of us here ever loved (as opposed to just pretending) someone because they threatened to harm us if we didn't?
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Lysimachus Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 380 Joined: |
crashfrog
quote: But why are populations on the rise is the real question? Because of SIN! Sin is why the world is in trouble with the population crises. If this planet had not sinned, we would have endless worlds to populate at our fingertips. Disasters are reflective of nature, of course. But this "nature" will increase its lack of mercy on humankind as we near Christ's second coming.
quote: Does it matter? The fact is, calamaties are on the rise. To say "oh well, earthquakes have been striking more frequently, but they've been missing the people" is not a very assuring thought in the least. The fact that they are increasing only demonstrates that the risk for people to be killed in an earthquake is ALSO increasing.
quote: My bad. Apparently, I read a negative quote, and accidently glanced at the wrong name. I appologize to you Mike the Wiz for placing you in this category.
quote: And you know why they were wrong? Because they didn't read the Bible carefully enough. It would have been impossible for the end of the world to come at many of those times, as the prophecies did not meet the Biblical criteria. But now it's for real. We are seeing the effects of global warming, of mass population, increased hurricanes, earthquakes, mud slides, and many other disasters. We are also seeing the fourth beast of Revelation begin to increase its influence to the rest of the world as Protestant Nations push Sunday sacredness. We are not to predict Christ soon return, but we can evaluate signs that lead us to believe we are approaching the end of the world soon...whether it be in the next 30 or perhaps 100 years. ~Lysimachus
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1498 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
But why are populations on the rise is the real question? Because all populations are always on the rise until they reach K. That's biological fact. Organisms have more offspring than it takes to replace themselves.
The fact is, calamaties are on the rise. The fact is, they aren't. There's the same number of earthquakes there always has been. Now, though, we notice more of them, because less of them happen where there are no people or detectors.
And you know why they were wrong? Because they didn't read the Bible carefully enough. And you have? Prove it. Why should I put any more trust in your reading than in theirs?
but we can evaluate signs that lead us to believe we are approaching the end of the world soon...whether it be in the next 30 or perhaps 100 years. Sorry, but with a track record as shitty as you Bible prophecy folks have, I'm not going to be cancelling my weekend plans just yet.
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Lysimachus Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 380 Joined: |
Dan Carrol, you just don't get how God's love works.
I don't see God as threatening me, but yet you do. So guess what now? We disagree! Obviously, if someone disagrees with you, then perhaps there is a chance to see that God is not threatening you? It doesn't work that way--in that God is holding a gun to your head and saying "accept or die". God loves you and wants to see you saved. He gives you a free will, so that you may choose to serve Him or not to serve him. It is your choice. That is a loving God. However, God is warning you that he will destroy sin. God does not rejoice in the destruction of the wicked, but it is the wicked who chose to be destroyed. Why are the wicked destroyed you ask? Because sin is the transgression of the law, and God will destroy sin. It is NOT the sinner God is destroying, but the SIN itself. However, guess what happens to the individual who attaches himself with sin? He get's destroyed WITH the sin! If you become sinful, sin is now part of your life. Therefore, when God goes out to destroy the sin, anything that has attached itself to the sin will get destroyed with the sin. It's as simple as that. So who's fault is it now? It's the sinner's fault, NOT God's fault. He gives you the opportunity to free yourself from sin, but if you refuse, what can God do? God must destroy sin, as sin was invented by Lucifer, the rebellious archangel. ~Lysimachus
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Lysimachus Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 380 Joined: |
quote: Is that argument going to fly with the UN? According to the UN, your logic bears no scientific relevance. That is just your own garbled up theory to try and damper the facts. If you're logic was true, then why do we see a major increase of Hurricanes striking the Carribean? And yes, there have been people living in these areas for a long time, and it is a well known fact that hurricanes like this were not known to be so "back to back" and frequent as they have been lately on an overall scale. ~Lysimachus
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