Thoughts On Robin Collins and the Many Universe Generator

I find it odd that you're perfectly happy to posit an awesomely powerful being capable of designing a universe without any cause or explanation but reject the notion of an entirely simpler natural cause for the universe without cause or explanation.

If you enclose the section you are quoting in [ qs ] and [ /qs ] tags (without the spaces before and after the qs) you will get nice quote boxes like these: As has been pointed out we don't have the information to make any judgement on what those odds are. In any case your answer fails to answer my point: isn't, by definition, a being capable of creating and fine tuning the universe more complicated and requiring of more precise conditions than the universe itself?

But geology doesn't produce f-18s, it produces mountains through processes we understand pretty well.And, hang on a second, "pre-destining" - nothing has predestined anything, that's the whole drift of naturalism. Things just happen. Nope. Firstly, as I said above: no pre-destination. Secondly, you're wrong - we don't require any more or less explanation that a god does. Whatever reason you can put forward as to why your designed doesn't require an explanation I can put forward as to why the universe doesn't require one - and the universe will always be the simpler explanation.Our knowledge of the laws of Physics are derived from a tiny sample under a small subset of possible circumstances; we know nothing yet about what goes on at the big bang yet alone before it. What Physics has taught us, however, is that intuition and common sense are very poor guides indeed.

Please use those quote boxes I showed you how to use, Jason, it'd make your replies easier to read. The universe does, yes, geology does not - and the universe does it through processes we're beginning to understand. None of which are any where near as complicated as the 'designer' use wish to posit to explain them.

A f-18 formed by geology would appear to be a miracle. However, we don't find anything like that. We find biological organisms of greater complexity than a f-18 formed by the process of natural selection and mutation - and there is no miracle in that. The organisms produced by evolution scream it from their every feature from the structure of their smallest cells to the nature of their behaviour.I find your analogy stupid because it compares completely different things.