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Author Topic:   how can any one religion make a valid claim to be the fundamental truth?
ohnhai
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Message 291 of 302 (181717)
01-29-2005 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 284 by riVeRraT
01-29-2005 5:29 PM


Re: I think you are approaching a very important point...
thought christ and God were the same thing? you are you claiming to have two deities now?

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ohnhai
Member (Idle past 5192 days)
Posts: 649
From: Melbourne, Australia
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Message 292 of 302 (181722)
01-29-2005 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 287 by riVeRraT
01-29-2005 5:44 PM


Re: What's in a name..
Rat:
but only one thing is perfect, and that is God almighty. Only one thing is true, that is God almighty. Only one thing can save you at the end of this life, and that is God.
Ohn:
Are you 100% absolutely sure of that? Are you convinced in your mind that this is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
Rat:
Yes.
OHN:
Do you, in your non-denominational Christian faith, accept that there is even the slightest chance you could be wrong in your ideas and beliefs as to the truth and nature of God (the ‘truth’), Yes or No?
Rat:
Yes absolutly. But the chance to me is more like my interpretation of the truth clouded by by my sinful way of thinking. There is always room for improvment in my faith, in my life, and in the way God wants me to be. I am no better than you
This does not invalidate the religion, or the bible, and definately does not invalidate the truth.
So which is it?
Yes: I am absolutely right in my beliefs as to God without any doubt.
Or
Yes: I could be wrong in my clouded interpretation of the nature and truth of God.
If as you say there is always room for improvement in your understanding of the nature and truth of god, then your understanding as to the nature and truth of god can’t be absolutely true because then there would be no room for improvement.
I will give you this much, the actual truth about the existence of God will forever remain the actual truth, no matter what any of us believe say or do. However we must realise that, as we are all fallible human beings, none of us can ever be 100% sure that we have nailed that truth down in its totality. If we could we wouldn’t be human.

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ohnhai
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Posts: 649
From: Melbourne, Australia
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Message 298 of 302 (181807)
01-30-2005 10:11 AM
Reply to: Message 296 by riVeRraT
01-30-2005 7:08 AM


Re: What's in a name..
Yes, God is 100% truth, he has to be obviously.
I cant see why it’s so obvious to assume God is 100% truth so I will have to disagree with you on this point, I feel it’s outside the possibility of man to ascertain the actual truth about god either way (despite my personal belief that God is unlikely to exist). But that is a totally different subject, and one for another thread.
Yes, my personal translation of him, and what is expected of me, could be wrong. That is my fault or man's, not God's.
Thankyou. That is all I was asking.

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