Wyatt's Ark of the Covenent

Is there some reason you are unwilling or unable to answer my questions?In case you have forgotten they can be found in Message 55 and Message 60 among many other locations.

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I asked a few questions in Message 100 and have not yet heard from you. Can you please explain the questions raised in that message or in Message 55?

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Jar: The Turkish military overthrew unlawfully an Islamic centered coalition government Not a theocratic govenment. The turkish military was afraid the Islamic centered government would establish an Islamic republic. There wasn't any evidence that an Islamic republic would have been established by the Islamic centered coalition government. No matter how secular the military or the current government. Turkey is very much sunni Islamic!

ArchaicGuy, Galatians 4:25 says that Mt. Sinai is in Saudi Arabia."For this (H)agar is mount Sinai IN ARABIA"!

Once again, simple unfounded assertions. Please provide some evidence to support your assertion.From the US State Department WebsiteOnce again, I have provided specific information to support my position unlike Ron Wyatt or any of his supporters who have yet to provide one single piece of supporting evidence for ANY assertion.Please provided support for your assertions.

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In case you've forgotten, you can find the questions in Message 55.

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Jim, since you're on at the moment, could I prompt you for some answers to the questions raised in this thread? In case Jar's links are confusing you, I've spent a minute or two summerising them. Please have the courtesy to spend the same time answering them.The alter of the calves:
Why are there no calves?
Why are there lots of other animals?
Why are there men waving their wangs?
Why is there no order to the pictographs?
Did RW publish only supportive data?
Did RW publish the fact that pictographs are common in that area?
Did RW publish the fact that the pictographs have been dated to 6000-3000 BC?Tourism and Travel:
In what way was the USSR not secular?
In what way is Turkey not secular?Noah's Ark:
Why has no one but Wyatt found artifacts?
Why is the wrong size?
Why would a geological survey find it to be a landslide?
Why did Fassold change his mind?
And I'd still like to know, how did Noah produce a titanium alloy?And Finally:
What are Dr. Moller's credentials for Archaeology? I appreciate that more resarch may be required for some of these (such as Noah's titamium) but please specify your current hypothesis. Other questions, such as those regarding Ron's writings, should only take a minute.

Jar: Sorry to disappoint you but I am not a supporter of Ron Wyatt. I clearly asserted that I'm willing to give his evidence the benefit of a doubt. But, until the Saudi Arabian authorities grant clearance to non saudi archaeologists to conduct excavations at Jabal El Lawz I cannot say for certainty whether Ron Wyatt is right in his conclusions or wrong if I haven't inspected the site in question. Take another look at the photos of pictoglyphs. There are two human figures near the cow that might be bowing to the cow the arrow in red is pointing at? One human figure below the cow and the other at the rear of the cow.This message has been edited by ArchaicGuy, 05-03-2005 07:34 PM

LOLActually their waving their schlongs. I guess the one in the rear could be following GOD's advice to Adam to try the critters and see how they do as a companion and helpmeet.***********************
AbE end AbE*********************There are also images of people below and to the left but they have bows and are hunting. (and waving their schlongs while they run) And what does that have to do with anything? Why does it take a non-Saudi to investigate the area?So I guess we've settled the issue that Turkey is a secular Nation. I would like to seee you and JimDSA post that understanding.So how about getting JimDSA to address the issues of Ron Wyatts failures?This message has been edited by jar, 05-03-2005 07:05 PM

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Hi Archaic and thanks for the reply.There seems to be a great deal of unsupported statements in your post. I am very familiar with the early 'history' of Israel and find some of your statements quite surprising.For example, you state: Of course the date of the Exodus is still disputed, with the 13th century date appearing to be far better supported than the 15th century date. However, which gentile nations recognised Israel as a nation during Saul's time? Support for this, in an historical enquiry, would need to come from outside of the Bible as internal references would simply be a circular argument.One problem here is that we have no external archaeological or epigraphical evidence that there ever was a King Saul, so a reference or two would be very welcome thanks.Also, you inform us that: We have two unsupported claims here Archaic. Could you give me any references from Egyptian sources that support the claim that Egyptians called the 'Israelites' Hebrews? As far as I am aware, there are no Egyptian references to Hebrews. Secondly, there is no direct evidence of Israeites slaves in Egypt either, this is a basic fact of the debate.Finally: Again, this is completely unsupported, I would argue that it is only during the time of David (10th century BCE)that we see any signs of what may possibly be the beginnings of an Israelite nation. It is only during this time that we see the beginnings of a central polity, the cropping up of fortifications and trade routes. Whether these have anything to do with David or not (and whether there actually was a David) is another matter. The giving of the Torah may simply be an invention of a later Israelite society, it is not unheard of for a nation to invent stories about the past.But, there is a lot in you post that is contrary to what the available evidence tells us. There is the possibility that you may have access to information that I haven't studied and I would appreciate it if you could give me a reference or two so that I could investigate your claims for myself.Thanks.Brian.

there's some disputed references to a group of people called "habiru" or "ibiru" or "apiru." might even be the origin of the name "hebrew" but i'm not sure. there's some stuff down at the bottom of this pageas for enslavement -- well, the closest we have is the opposite way around.

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And from a link on the link from Chas, we get AIG`s collection. Has the Ark of the Covenant Been Found? | Answers in Genesis Read the references at the bottom. Not only did Jesus` blood start dividing in the lab, but Ron actually recovered the original tablets with the Ten Commandments on it. Was this guy a nutcase or no?

Mind you, this is even Answers in Genesis that is laughing at Ron Wyatt.

And Ron knew that AiG was totally wrong!

Jar, once again you show that you are a very shallow thinker -- if you can't see that the people who carved the petroglyphs of the cows and bulls onto those stones were OUT OF CONTROL PEOPLE, then I truly wonder why I should answer any of your "questions"! The answers to "questions" is a "quest" for the Truth -- and if you can't even read the Bible story and understand that all the people dancing and carrying on around the Golden Calf Altar were partying and acting lasciviously, it should be no surprise to you that they carved sexually inappropriate petroglyphs onto the rocks!And what did Moses do?HE HAD THEM KILLED!!!!!!!!Try reading Genesis 32:15, 19, 25 (the people were naked!), and 28 (3,000 were killed!)Jar, if you can't pay attention or understand the simplist Bible story, why am I supposed to think that you can ever understand the importance of Ron Wyatt's evidence and discoveries?The statue that Aaron made was a "golden calf" -- that became the name of the altar -- and it doesn't matter what the other idiots carved on the rocks, cows and bulls are just the grown up version of a calf!