Terrorism in London

Then I'm sure you'll be able to quote the parts of the Bible that support that.

According to you. According to the perpetrators, it was entirely consistent with, and mandated by, that same faith.Oh, right. "They're twisting the Bible." Never mind that that's exactly what they say you're doing. Christianity: Submission to belief in and laws of an all-powerful God, until such time as all the world is under the rule of the Kingdom of God.Islam: Submission to belief in and laws of an all-powerful God, until such time as all the world is under the rule of Sharia or whatever they call their worldwide theocracy.I don't see a difference, except in terminology. Seriously, you should examine your ridiculous hair-splitting from the perspective of an atheist sometime. It would be hilarious except for the fact that the only thing you and the Muslims agree on is that I, the atheist, am an abomination to be ostracized and destroyed. It's amazing to hear someone who, like me, lives in a country that rebelled against it's God-appointed ruler, which the Bible specifically comdemns, say a statement like that. It's amazing to me how ignorant you are about your own history and your own faith. Christianity isn't in the least consistent with democracy nor with the sort of democratic revolution that mark the beginning of both of our nations, as was noted by theologians at the time.If the Founding Fathers had actually been Christians instead of Deists, you and I would both be living in the United States of England.

From you. From Christians. I've been hearing it for years, Faith. Oh, not at the start, no. Eventually everybody is either a Christian, or is annihilated. "Kingdom of God." What do you think that means? It was Canada to which I was referring. Apparently you didn't pick up on that. Did I say that they did? Thankfully I live in a nation where I am protected against retribution from you and your ilk. It's too bad that we're not able to intercept every act of Christian terrorism, but largely we're able to hold your fundamentalist monstrosities at bay. Hrm, interesting idea. Why don't you and Canadian Steve try it sometime?At any rate, I did not call Steve ignorant because he disagrees with me. I called him ignorant because that is what he is - ignorant about the history of his nation and his faith. To assert that the Bible doesn't condemn rebellion against one's king, or that that did not occur during the founding of either of our nations, is to betray a staggering ignorance of either the content of the Bible or the history of North America, or both.

This isn't a matter of opinion, Faith. This is an objective matter of what is factual and what is not. You can't disagree with the facts. One certainly could. What's your point?

So, they are commands to the people of God. Which is exactly the context in which I presented them.What's your point?

I'm not that young. Besides, you show up here preaching your disgusting perversions, your philosophy of hate and bondage, your religion of death and fanaticism, your thirst for the destruction of our American way of life, and you have the audacity to call me the "mean-spirited" one? Ah, I see. It's not "mean-spirited" when you do it.Revolting.

I don't understand why this religious pissing contest is so important to you.

Why? I need not understand why they believe themselves to be "true to their faith" any more than I need to understand why abortion bombers believe themselves to be true to their faith. I mean, what's the relevance of their faith? Being of one faith or another - being a Muslim or a Christian - has no value in determining culpability for terrorist acts, or the likelyhood that one will commit them. It's simply irrelevant.I know that the Islamists want to kill me, because I'm an atheist and because I believe in freedom for all, not religious domination. A not-insignificant number of Christians want me dead for the same reason. Well, that's the life of the atheist.But arguing about which of those groups is true to their faith or not is just a pissing contest. It's just a way for you to spread the blame of fanaticism to all Muslims and simultaneously preach the superiority of your own faith. It's not in the least bit relevant to the question at hand, which is "how do we stop a world-wide, decentralized organization of murderous madmen?"

Hey, question for Brits:If these are the people you call "asians":what do you call these people?Not trying to be racist, but I'm somewhat unclear on UK racial terminology.

Really? No difference? If your wife sends you out for Kung Pow Chicken you come back with Tikka Masala?Hey, I believe you. I don't believe in race anyway. Just seems weird, is all. Sorry to hear about the attacks on Hindus and Sihks.

No, it doesn't. Fundamentalism is fundamentalism. The Christian terrorists are no more ameinable to reason than the Muslim ones. Really? I've never heard a Christian church decry the outrageous abuses of Fred Phelps or speak out in support of the victims of an abortion clinic bombing. Rather, all I've heard is insulting sophistry along the lines of "well, wouldn't you have shot Hitler to save the Jews if you had had the chance?"I've never heard a Christian church take a stance against creationist shysters like Kent Hovind and Carl Baugh. In fact my old church has all of Hovind's videos in their library. They give them to kids. I've never heard a Christian church distance themselves from Ayatollah Dobson and his American Family Association/Focus on the Family jihadists. Never.Little support from the Christian community? Please. The biggest failing of modern Christianity is their steadfast refusal to clean house when it comes to their own fundamentalists. Hell if you want I'll dig up examples of Christian churches actually harboring these Christian psychos and murderers. In check? Did you forget that, prior to 9/11, the largest single act of US domestic terrorism was committed by a Christian? In what sense are these people being held in check when their own religious community offers no sanctions whatsoever?Like I said, this is just a pissing contest. You never miss an opportunity to chime in and remind us how much better and nicer Christian terrorists are. The racism is not so subtle.

Oh, of course. But that wasn't what I said. There's no doubt that there are progressive Christians who will take a stand against the zealots in their own churches. But that seems to be something churches as a whole are very reluctant to do.