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Author Topic:   Pat Robertson shows again why the Christian Right is such a laughingstock
FairWitness
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Message 36 of 232 (236438)
08-24-2005 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by berberry
08-24-2005 10:43 AM


I'm appalled at Pat Robertson's latest outrageous remarks
Pat Robertson continues his descent into madness. I wonder if he isn't suffering from some form of mental defect or disease, seriously folks. Talking about assassinating a foreign leader, despite the reason, is at the very least, irresponsible. It goes with saying that such actions if taken by our government would be unlawful and in terms of Christian conduct, sinful. His rhetoric in the past few years, with regard to his comments regarding hurricanes & tsunamis being inflicted by a vengeful God to punish the wicked, are those of a sick mind & leave me bewildered as to why someone within his organization has taken him off the air. I don't know anyone in my circle of "the Christian Community" giving him a pass. We all think he's gone completely mental. None of us agree with his outrageous interpretations of the natural disasters that have befallen our fellow world citizens. Frankly, we think he should take up a new residence, preferably in a padded cell.

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FairWitness
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Message 38 of 232 (236443)
08-24-2005 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Theodoric
08-24-2005 12:16 PM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
Leftist ideology, as a theory reads like poetry. When practically applied to life, it fails miserably in every country it's been implemented. It robs the human spirit of the will to excel & achieve, it robs the gains of those who work hard & gives those gains to the idle, etc., etc., etc. Bottom line: IT DOES NOT WORK.
However, that being said, there are other ways of defeating Mr. Chavez, that don't involve assassination, which also doesn't work. That is a heinous act for which only evil will follow. The USA cannot engage in such evil & I am appalled at Rev. Robertson for calling for his death. Unacceptable & Mr. Robertson should apologize, retract his statement & then resign in disgrace.

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FairWitness
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Message 39 of 232 (236445)
08-24-2005 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by FairWitness
08-24-2005 12:43 PM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
In calling for this assassination, Rev. Robertson has made himself appear to look no better than all the fanatical mullahs in the Middle East issuing fatwas calling for Jihad against us & our President. Shame on him.

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FairWitness
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Message 78 of 232 (236592)
08-24-2005 7:07 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Yaro
08-24-2005 1:05 PM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
I cannot speak intelligently about the man. I only know Rev. Robertson considers him to be a menace. However, if he is truly a democratically elected official, then you are correct that it is not our place to depose the man. On the other hand, if he is a thug, a communist who remains in power by other than democratic means in a democracy, then we have a right, possibly a duty, to voice opposition to that circumstance. It depends on how he maintains his hold on power, doesn't it?

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FairWitness
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Message 79 of 232 (236593)
08-24-2005 7:14 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by GDR
08-24-2005 2:18 PM


Re: I agree..for example where's...
I, too, am a Christian & a conservative, American woman. I wrote 3 posts today #'s 36, 38 & 39. Did you happen to catch them? They condemn Rev. Robertson in the strongest terms. I don't know anybody in my circle of friends & acquaintenances who doesn't. Simply appalling. He deserves to be shunned.
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FairWitness
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Message 112 of 232 (236725)
08-25-2005 9:05 AM
Reply to: Message 110 by nator
08-25-2005 8:29 AM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
Yes, just like them. And I don't believe we've ever voiced approval for oppression by any foreign government, regardless of their size, power or trading status. We do enjoy friendly relations with Saudi Arabia, it does not follow that we support all that goes within that sovereign country's government. The same holds with China. Different situations call for different tactics, too. Venezuela isn't China, now is it?

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FairWitness
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Message 113 of 232 (236727)
08-25-2005 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 102 by nator
08-25-2005 8:02 AM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
You obviously are ignorant of how people come to own stock in publicly held companies, sir. They earn income, that they pay taxes on & with the after tax money, having first paid their mortgages, car payments, insurance premiums, grocery bills, etc., they use the money they've saved to buy stocks in companies. Those companies in turn use the money they raise selling their stocks to invest in new jobs, equipment, facilities, etc. It's called the free market, capitalism, the American dream. And BTW, the bulk of stocks are owned by pension & profit sharing plans & mutual funds of workers like you & me, not the wealthy. The middle class in this country owns the vast majority of the wealth in this nation, not the rich.

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FairWitness
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Message 115 of 232 (236730)
08-25-2005 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 102 by nator
08-25-2005 8:02 AM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
BTW, nobody goes with healthcare in this country. They may not have health INSURANCE, but anyone can go to an emergency room in any town in America & they must be treated for anything from a hang nail to a head cold to a brain tumor to open heart surgery, free of charge. There's a big distinction, don't you agree?

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FairWitness
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Message 117 of 232 (236733)
08-25-2005 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 114 by Yaro
08-25-2005 9:18 AM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
I should think that would be obvious. They've been oppressed by violent terrorists for decades, enemies all around them. And until recently, they've been the only democracy in the ME.

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FairWitness
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Message 156 of 232 (236801)
08-25-2005 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 144 by jar
08-25-2005 10:54 AM


Re: Go without health care?
We've all been in emergency rooms, waiting for hours on end with real emergencies to be treated, while the staff deals with indigents with rashes & head colds. What I meant was no one goes without healthcare in America. I didn't say this was they best way to treat them. The post I was responding to stated that there were millions who had no healthcare, & that is just not so.

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FairWitness
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Message 159 of 232 (236807)
08-25-2005 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 120 by nator
08-25-2005 9:49 AM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
The wealthiest 1% controls 1/3 of the wealth. That leaves 2/3, TWICE THE AMOUNT OF THE RICH, controlled by the rest of us. Can't you understand the article you posted????? I am correct, the middle class controls the vast amount of wealth in this country, & has for the century & a half, it is not a recent phenomenom.

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FairWitness
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Message 160 of 232 (236808)
08-25-2005 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by Yaro
08-25-2005 12:46 PM


Re: Go without health care?
Why do you think their lives are less valued because they're indigents? That's a very uncaring, nasty way to look at people more unfortunate than yourself. They have nowhere else to go for medical treatement if their community has no "free clinic." That doesn't mean they are any less valuable as human beings. What's the matter with you?

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FairWitness
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Message 161 of 232 (236812)
08-25-2005 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by deerbreh
08-25-2005 12:04 PM


Re: Where is Pat Robertson?
I guess his apology & retraction have been accepted. For me, I still think he should step down. Anyone callous enough to use such highly inflammatory rhetoric on the airwaves with a following as large as his has a duty & responsibility to maintain a certain level of decorum. He's lost it & he should go.

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FairWitness
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Message 162 of 232 (236820)
08-25-2005 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 119 by Yaro
08-25-2005 9:39 AM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
No, they have absolutely no legitimacy when they strap bombs on their own 12 & 13 year old boys & blow them to smithereens murdering innocent Israeli children, women & men in the process. They're a vile, disgusting group of evil doers just like al Qaeda & should be dealt with in the same manner as we're dealing with them.

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FairWitness
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Message 166 of 232 (236830)
08-25-2005 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by Yaro
08-25-2005 1:10 PM


Re: Obviously not Christian, but....
The Isrealis are in the process of dismantling their settlements this very moment. However, at the time the settlements were established, they had been attacked from all sides, many Israelis died, they fought back very hard & ultimately won the war. The settlements were put in place as a defense against future attacks. The dismantling of them is part of the "Road Map to Peace."

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