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Author Topic:   Thou Shalts and Thou Shalnts
nwr
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Message 2 of 204 (248172)
10-02-2005 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Nuggin
10-02-2005 11:13 AM


It seems that the Thou Shall Nots are very well defined. You definitely know if you are violating it. However, the Thou Shalls are in a big old gray area.
If the "Thou Shalls" were well defined, then they would look like nagging. And nobody want's a nagging God.
The "Thou Shalt Nots" are not really all that well defined either. For example, it is often stated as "Thou shalt not commit murder" rather than "Thou shalt not kill". This allows all kinds of equivocation. For example, it allows people to convince themselves that tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis being killed is not murder, but is merely an unfortunate side effect of war.
Sad to say, but experience seems to show that the two primary moral principles are:
Might makes right.
You scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours.

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Message 103 of 204 (252671)
10-18-2005 9:05 AM
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10-18-2005 8:58 AM


Re: There's only one Reality
We are more than the sum of our sensory inputs. Remove them and I still have a reality
Remove all sensory input, and you will very likely die.

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Message 105 of 204 (252694)
10-18-2005 9:56 AM
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10-18-2005 9:25 AM


Re: There's only one Reality
There is also a lot of sensory input from proprioception - internal signals about the state of the body.

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Message 111 of 204 (252771)
10-18-2005 1:54 PM
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10-18-2005 1:46 PM


Re: There's only one Reality
iano writes:
That there are many crossovers and similarities doesn't make collective reality. Look at the human race: massive similarities on a wide range of fronts yet each and every one is different. No two people are the same, neither are two peoples realities.
I am mildly amused at your relativism.
AFAIK most literalists are vigorously opposed to such relativism.

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Message 116 of 204 (252834)
10-18-2005 5:29 PM
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10-18-2005 2:02 PM


Re: There's only one Reality
Guess that makes me an illiteralist
I will cede that one to you iano

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Message 123 of 204 (253040)
10-19-2005 11:32 AM
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10-19-2005 5:16 AM


Re: There's only one Reality
Speaking of seed. Any of all this landing on fertile soil?
Legend and Ringo316 are both making more sense than you are.

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Message 127 of 204 (253088)
10-19-2005 2:19 PM
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10-19-2005 1:22 PM


What Jesus didn't mention
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But just to see for yourself whether you are blindly siding with your buddies, maybe you could do an exposition on this gem.
ringo writes:
The mere fact that Jesus didn't mention any complications is a Biblical case for simplicity.

Sorry. I don't want to touch that one. I have no idea what Jesus didn't mention. At best I could tell what he is not reported as having mentioned. However, the gospel reports are far from a complete record of his life.

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