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Topic: The beginning of the jihad in Europe?
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Chiroptera
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Message 171 of 301 (258455)
11-10-2005 11:49 AM
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Reply to: Message 170 by jar
11-10-2005 11:44 AM
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Actually, what he needs to do is to explain the relevance of that.
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Chiroptera
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Message 181 of 301 (258503)
11-10-2005 1:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 172 by jar
11-10-2005 11:54 AM
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I wish now I had not even bothered posting.
Have you noticed I'm just taunting him now? I'm surprised you haven't put a stop to that. I assume that he's managed to put the admins to sleep.
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Chiroptera
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Message 182 of 301 (258505)
11-10-2005 1:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 180 by Silent H
11-10-2005 1:19 PM
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Re: prove it?
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Asking me to provide evidence for this... which is rather widely available... is as odious and absurd as asking me to provide evidence that the holocaust occured or that Romans really persecuted Xians. You really believe that it was all church socials don't you?
Just googling "Lithuanian Crusades" would be a start. And before CanadianSteve claims that Christians were "retaking" Iberia (as if it rightfully belonged to the Chistian rulers, anyway), one should mention how the Jews fared no better under Ferdinand and Isabella's Inquisition than the Muslims.
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Chiroptera
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Message 185 of 301 (258515)
11-10-2005 1:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 173 by randman
11-10-2005 11:57 AM
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Re: maybe others feel the same way
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I wish now I had not even bothered posting. Hmmm....maybe he feels the same way?
That would be a start. Once he realizes that his obsessive-compulsive behaviour is out of control, he may then seek some kind of treatment for it. I suspect, though, that he is still in denial.
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Chiroptera
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Message 188 of 301 (258581)
11-10-2005 3:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 187 by randman
11-10-2005 2:37 PM
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Re: maybe others feel the same way
Ah, I did misunderstand you. In that case your post was somewhat humerous. Not falling down hilarious, but worth a small chuckle.
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Chiroptera
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Re: maybe others feel the same way
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Were i to respond in kind....
I just like it when you respond at all. I made a crack about your obsession about Muslims coming in to conquer the West, and the rest of your post is a screed that pretty much indicates how my joke is close to reality. As you would say:
I rest my case.
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Chiroptera
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Re: maybe others feel the same way
Nothing in that post was well-founded. It was nothing more than hyperbolic rhetoric. Nothing wrong with a little hyperbole, but you are confusing your own empty rhetoric with well-reasoned discussion.
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Chiroptera
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Re: Anti-Semitism
I think the exact wording of this phrase is quite telling:
But the palestinians don't plan on doing what they cannot, wiping out ISrael in a few blasts - much as they salivate at the thought. This message has been edited by Chiroptera, 11-Nov-2005 02:54 PM
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Chiroptera
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Re: Anti-Semitism
I do find it interesting that you take no shame that you have basically admitted your hatred for an entire group of people. In liberal democracies, most racists try to at least hide their racism. I do admit that such naked contempt for an entire people is...refreshing. Edited to add:In fact, it's so refreshing that I think that I will post CandadianSteves quotes again:
But the palestinians don't plan on doing what they cannot, wiping out ISrael in a few blasts - much as they salivate at the thought. truth is telling, isn't it? This message has been edited by Chiroptera, 11-Nov-2005 04:00 PM
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Chiroptera
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Re: Anti-Semitism
Sorry, Steve. I added your quotes by edit as you posted this. But just in case you don't quite understand, let me explain: you stated:
But the palestinians don't plan on doing what they cannot, wiping out ISrael in a few blasts - much as they salivate at the thought. When I pointed out how your choice of words was telling (about your racism), you replied:
truth is telling, isn't it?
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Chiroptera
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Re: Anti-Semitism
The Palestinians? All of them? Every single one of them? At any rate, you stated that the Palestinians salivate at the thought of further blasts. You are clearly saying that Palestinians as a group enjoy the violence committed against Israelis, and your use of the word salivate brings them down to the level of animals.
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Chiroptera
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Message 259 of 301 (258831)
11-11-2005 11:51 AM
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Reply to: Message 257 by Silent H
11-11-2005 11:38 AM
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No one today is culpable for what others did in the far past. Neither are those today actually victims of what happened in the past. However we are still in a position where we cause harm to those same people. The continued victimization must end and some reparations are in order.
I just want to say that I like the way this was said.
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Chiroptera
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Re: Anti-Semitism
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Do you use the English language than do others?
Ha ha ha ha ha. You mean like you do? Ha ha ha ha ha. -
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And tell me: If I accurately say that palestinian men abuse women (no, not every single one), does that make me a misogynist? If I accurately say that the Nazis (no, not every single one) wanted to kill all Jews, does that make me a genocidist?
What the hell are you talking about? You not only characterized an entire people as homicidal terrorists, but you used language that expressed your utter contempt for this people. Let me copy your sentence here again, adding bold-face to indicate the relevant phrasing:
But the palestinians don't plan on doing what they cannot, wiping out ISrael in a few blasts - much as they salivate at the thought. Suppose I rewrite the sentence like this:
But the Jews don't plan on doing what they cannot, wiping out the Palestinians with a few military strikes - much as they salivate at the thought. Now if I had written such a thing, I would have been accused of anti-Semitism (and rightly so).
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Chiroptera
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When did the Anglos get a moral/practical right to England after pushing out the Saxons?
Ha ha ha ha. It was a combination of the Angles and the Saxons that conquered Celtic Britain. Ha ha ha ha ha.
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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Chiroptera
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Re: Anti-Semitism
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deal (read Bill Clinton's book)
A known perjurer?
"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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