Why NOT Christ Lineage through Joesph's boodline, Instead of Judah's

I saw Post 20 and will revisit it.

Brian, Tell me why you don't simply insist that Solomon is the Messiah? Is there any need for you to go further?Why is not your argument that since Jesus is not Solomon He cannot be the Messianic King son of David because Solomon has already fulfilled that prophecy?Why is that NOT your stronger argument according to your understanding of 2 Samuel?This message has been edited by jaywill, 01-05-2006 08:36 AMThis message has been edited by jaywill, 01-05-2006 08:39 AM

Because that isn't what the passage says.He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.Brian.

Do you believe that the passage is a messianic promise or not? Yes or No?

Yes.

The blindman at Jericho - Mt 9:27; Mr 10:47
The Canaanite Woman - Mt 15:22
The questioning crowd - Mt 12:23
The massive crowd at the Triumphal Entry - Mt 21:15
Apostle Peter - Acts 2.25ff
Apostle Paul - Acts 13.22ff; Romans 1.3; 2 Tim 2.8
Apostle John - Revelation 5:5; 22.16 It is normal to give credit to the source where you glean your info.Brian.

Because, the expectiation for a 'messiah' to deliever israel from oppression did not develop until later. THere were many messiah's in Israel. Solomon was one . Cyrus (a non jew) was another. The term 'messaih' means annointed one, which referes to being blessed by a ceremony with oil in the temple.The expectation of the Messiah I think developed in the second century b.c.e... when the Jews were beign oppressed by Antioch. The expectation was that the Messiah (the king of Israel from the david line,i.e. home grown), who would free israel from oppression. They expected and were looking for a HUMAN king.

Brian, Then why do you need anymore than to just say that Solomon is the fulfillment of this messianic prophecy and leave it at that?This message has been edited by jaywill, 01-05-2006 10:02 AM

I have personal permission from Glenn Miller to use portions of his website. I obtained this permission years ago.Are you accusing me of plagerism?And previously when I quoted something from it I sourced the quotation.

To the Brians of this Forum,If anyone has compliants about a few lines which I pasted in from A Christian Think Tank Website of Glenn Miller please contact him.Tell him that Jack Wilmore of Northern Virginia claims that he emailed him around 1993-95 timeframe and requested permission to cut and paste portions of his website as he desired.Tell Glenn that Jack Wilmore said that Glenn GAVE him permission to do so.And if he has questions about it he can email one of my addresses at jjwilmore@netscape.netThis message has been edited by jaywill, 01-05-2006 10:16 AMThis message has been edited by jaywill, 01-05-2006 10:17 AMThis message has been edited by jaywill, 01-05-2006 10:27 AM

Ramoss, So if there are many messiahs who even less so, could be called the Son of David, why do you raise the bar higher on Jesus of Nazareth, to prove that He is not the Son of David?If you claim that Solomon or Cyrus could be the ANOINTED one then why do you object that The CHRISTOS (Anointed) cannot be a Messianic king on David's throne?This message has been edited by jaywill, 01-05-2006 10:26 AM

The prophecy insisted that Solomon's descendants would be on the throne of Israel forever. Solomon was a messiah, as was every King of Israel. The future messiah, the one that would free Israel from her enemies and establish peace on Earth, obviously has to be a descendant of Solomon if this prophecy is true.Jesus wasn't from the line of Solomon, nor did he ever installed as King of Israel, thus, this is only one reason why Jesus was no messiah.If Solomon was THEE messiah, then why did subsequent prophets ( such as Jeremiah) still speak of the messiah to come?Brian.

This is essentially one of the forum rules:7. Never include material not your own without attribution to the original source. I am not accusing you of anything J, just pointing out what you may have overlooked.It is not a problem, just the done thing.I don't even suspect that you have to gain any writer's permission to use anything as long as you reference it.Brian.

Brian,So if I go through every single one of your posts on this Forum I should see that everywhere you have stated something that you read somewhere else you have left us a reference then.If I had quoted a long section I would have referenced it. I reserve the right to limit that practice to a substantial portion of copied material.And if that is a problem I will gladly leave this forum. Contact the Admins with your complaint.

Probably. It has been stated here a few times that I am one of the very few people who do reference sources. I very very very seldom reference websites, I normally take my info from books, and I always cite them. The quantity is immaterial, if it isn't your own work, then you say where it came from, simple. It was copied verbatim from Miller, well almost verbatim. He did the groundwork not you, it is common courtesy to give him the credit. But, I am not complaining, I just pointed out a forum rule that you may have overlooked.I used to be an Admin here, and I would have responded in Admin mode if I still was an Admin. But Admin work is extremely time consuming, so we should all pitch in to help out.It isn't a complaint, I am not accusing you of plagiarism, so chill out and give credit where it is due.Brian.