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Why NOT Christ Lineage through Joesph's boodline, Instead of Judah's

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jar
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Message 13 of 184 (275544)
01-03-2006 11:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 12 by jaywill
01-03-2006 10:58 PM

Re: more on the problem at hand
No problem. Jesus wasn't a King of Israel anyway.
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01-04-2006 12:01 AM 		Reply to: Message 14 by jaywill
01-03-2006 11:51 PM

Re: more on the problem at hand
Yeah, I know some people use Zechariah as a messianic prophecy refering to Jesus, but if you read on it becomes pretty clear that it does not refer to Jesus, but to a coming warlord.
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13When I have bent Judah for me, filled the bow with Ephraim, and raised up thy sons, O Zion, against thy sons, O Greece, and made thee as the sword of a mighty man.
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14And the LORD shall be seen over them, and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning: and the LORD God shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south.
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15The LORD of hosts shall defend them; and they shall devour, and subdue with sling stones; and they shall drink, and make a noise as through wine; and they shall be filled like bowls, and as the corners of the altar.
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16And the LORD their God shall save them in that day as the flock of his people: for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land.
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17For how great is his goodness, and how great is his beauty! corn shall make the young men cheerful, and new wine the maids.
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jar
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01-04-2006 1:11 AM 		Reply to: Message 16 by jaywill
01-04-2006 12:14 AM

Re: more on the problem at hand
If you don't believe the Gospel of Matthew you miss the word of God.
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We'regetting far afield here. But I would like to raise two points. On is that the quotation in Matthew is obviously either inserted in order to build a connection, or is simply completely misunderstood. In Zechariah, you find examples of classic Hebrew poetry, repeating and contrasting something for emphasis.
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But that's not what is found in Matthew. In Matthew we see the phrase, "Get them" That is not repetition, that's two critters.
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The second thing is to say that if you don't believe the Gospel of Matthew you miss the word of God. Sorry, but I do believe the Gospel of Matthew, that says everyone is saved, that salvation is freely given to all, and that it will mostly be Christians that are designated as the Goats. If you don't believe that, then you miss the Word of GOD.
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jar
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04-05-2006 1:44 PM 		Reply to: Message 158 by dancer
04-05-2006 1:37 PM

The original?
Do you at least believe that the original text included exactly what the prophet meant to say?
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Well, first off we don't have any of the originals so that is impossible to answer. Second, if we are refering to Isaiah 7, then it's pretty obvious that the New Testament author was quote mining and taking it out of context.
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Finally, what does this have to do with Jesus lineage?
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