Is it 'boring' being God?

I was typing as you were doing your warning and didnt see it. Since the crucifixion relative to prophecy point which was earlier made, pertained to topic I felt the need to answer this briefly.

The problem is, if you accept the initial premises in the OP, I see no other reasonable conclusions than those mentioned by Brian.If GOD knows all that has happened, and all that will happen, how could he be other than bored?

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A poet once said (quoting his auntie) that to be bored is to lack inner resources--and surely God has cornered the market on inner resources.Anyway, I've come up with a few possible answersMagic Answer #1: God never gets bored because he has the power to make himself not bored. QEPoof.Magic Answer #2: God avoids boredom by changing the past with QM hocus pocus whenever boredom seems imminent. QMPoof.Magic Answer #3: God never gets bored because he has the Power and the Glory forever--and so much bling that seeing him directly would blind you and stuff. In other words, we might think God would get bored because of our anthropomorhpic projections, but that would be as silly as believing that God gets jealous, angry, bloodthirsty, changes his mind, or creates creatures with both the ability and the inclination to disobey and them blames then for it.Heretical Answer #1: God never gets bored because his gig is essentially masturbatory--the whole cosmos exists to adore him, after all, and what's boring about that? Nobody knows what God likes like God does, and the grovelling adoration of creatures tormented by life and threatened with eternal torment after life is apparently what he likes best.Heretical Answer #2: God never gets bored because on any given day there are thousands of children to sacrifice to disease, starvation, and self-righteousness.Heretical Answer #3: God never gets bored because that's not what fictional patriarchal tyrants do.

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What I refuse to accept is your insistence that your beliefs about your beliefs constitute evidence in support of your beliefs.

I suppose if God is omnipotent, he could make himself forget things so he'd be surprised later. This would have no consequence to his omnisicence since he probably doesn't perceive time as a we do. And since he probably lives an existence out of time, he could act angry towards humanity during one moment in time and then come back to the same moment and act lovingly. For those of us who perceive time in a linear fashion, we wouldn't know the difference. This could explain why I find the Bible to have so many inconsistent messages.

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How about omniscience meaning that you know everything that can possibly be known. In that case, some things might be impossible to know...such as the future. If you think its possible to know the future, then my definition doesn't change anything.~clpMINI

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Thats the risk He took.Einstein was wrong; God does play dice. God takes the same risk with us: will we come through for Him and place our trust in Jesus when we have the freedom to do otherwise ?Many ignorant persons in Christendom THINK Satan was happy with the crucifixion. These people could not be anymore wrong.Two things and only two things were happening the night before Jesus was crucified.Biblical theists are dualists, that is we know there are two and only two forces that control this world. Satan did everything possible to prevent the crucifixion. He decided the best way to prevent the event from transpiring was to have Jesus tucked away in a jail cell waiting for the slow wheels of justice to run their course. If Satan could at least delay the crucifixion from occurring on Passover then he will have ruined God's O.T. typology.But the other force at work was God. Satan with all his power must have been awestruck to see Jesus have 3 trials in one night. Paul sat in jail for how many years waiting for one trial ?We know Jesus was willingly going to suffer the wrath of God for sins. The only thing that could prevent this from happening was Him. In the O.T. the Burnt Offering was a free will offering. The offerer had to do it willingly.As God did not know if Abraham feared Him until he held the knife ready to kill Isaac - the same, that is God DID NOT KNOW FOR SURE if Jesus would actually go through with the crucifixion until He did. This is WHY in the Garden Jesus was under such heavy pressure His vessels broke and He sweated blood. He knew God was going to treat Him like the lamb on the day of atonement in the wilderness. He knew God was going to pour out His wrath upon Him for all sins.God had faith Jesus would go through with it. He hoped He would, BUT HE DID NOT KNOW FOR SURE UNTIL JESUS ACTUALLY DID because free will exists: the ability to change one's mind at will.Ray

The God of the Bible reveals Himself omniscient with an asterisk. His omniscience is delayed in one certain well defined area.If you assert the God of the Bible omniscient minus the asterisk then you have no source for your beliefs about God and are engaged in a subjective opinion.Read Genesis 22:12.It plainly says God did not know something until a certain moment had arrived. Abraham was at least 120 years old in the passage. Imagine that, being a 120 year old Patriarch and God admitting He did not know something about you ?My point stands: God's omniscience is delayed in a certain area until His omnipotence can arrange circumstances to find out.Its not boring being God.RayThis message has been edited by Herepton, 01-13-2006 12:05 PM

Where are you getting this from? This would mean that either God is less than perfect, or He hasn't read His own book.According to many Christians, Jesus' crucifixion is foretold in the O.T. Remember how they misunderstand the suffering servant songs? They mutilate them to try and fit Jesus' life.If that isn't obvious enough, what about the N.T. texts?Matt. 26:32 But after I have risen, I will go ahead of you into Galilee."Matt. 27:40 and saying, "You who are going to destroy the temple and build it in three days, save yourself! Come down from the cross, if you are the Son of God!"Matt. 27:63 "Sir," they said, "we remember that while he was still alive that deceiver said, 'After three days I will rise again.'Mark 8:31 He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again.Mark 9:31 because he was teaching his disciples. He said to them, "The Son of Man is going to be betrayed into the hands of men. They will kill him, and after three days he will rise."How can you say God (and Jesus) didn’t know that Jesus was only going to be dead for three days? Did God not bother to read His own book, did He have a ghost writer, or a Holy Ghost write?As I said, Jesus’ sacrifice is hardly awe inspiring. He died, so what, He knew it was only temporary. Free will does not negate omniscience. He could just be getting His kicks by watching us thinking that we have a choice. If God knows everything, then He knows what your ultimate choice will be. But, these animal sacrifices were real sacrifices, not like the pantomime that Jesus acted out. The owners didn't get their live animal back three days later, but God knew His son would be back with Him three days later. What a crappy effort! Roman Catholics make far bigger sacrifices at lent, they give up something for 40 days, God didn't even manage for 3 whole days! Yes, God stopped Abraham not because He didn’t know if Abraham would kill Isaac or not, He let it go that far for Abraham’s sake. It was to show Abraham how much he loved God, how much he trusted God. Abraham was allowed to go this far to demonstrate to Abraham that his faith was strong. Oh it was a drama alright, a complete farce. Thus, the God of the Bible is not the ultimate being. That sure explains a lot.
Brian.

But, this then brings up so many other questions.Did God create in order to try and entertain Himself?Why did God create Satan?Why did God create the circumstances of the Fall?Why did God create humans when He knows many will refuse to acknowledge His son's sacrifice, thus He created them in the knowledge that they are eternally damned?Take me as an example, I didn't ask to be created, if I hadn't been created then obviously I wouldn't exist and I wouldn't be aware of anything. But, unless something extremely unlikely happens, I apparently will be condemned to Hell for all eternity! Why would God create me when he knows that I will never take Jesus' resurrection seriously?Is this all just a game to Him? How can God be kept busy, when He can do anything He wants with a single thought?Brian.

Makes more sense than creating it from nothing! I don't see the connection, why would free will lead to God losing His omniscience?Also, can God be God if He isn't omniscient? He would still be entertained if He kept His omniscience. Imagine how entertaining it would be to watch all the different fundy groups claiming that they have the Truth and everyone else is condemned, when you are the only one who knows the Truth.How amusing would it be to appear to a Christian in a vision and metamorphosise into Ganesh before their very eyes, declaring that Jesus was an avatar of Krishna! It certainly is.Brian.

You know, for a lot of years I experienced long periods of very realistic nightmares, they only happen occasionally now, but I can just guess what the next one will be about! Thanks very much.Brian.

Let's all pity God?Seriously though, what other characteristics, apart from omniscience, omnipotence and immortality, can we use to define God?It does sound like a nightmare, and perhaps everything in the universe is designed to try and alleviate God's boredom. Even although God knows everything, perhaps he gets some sort of pleasure out of watching things enfold? It certainly isn't an existence that I envy. Maybe Buddhists have the right idea, they see becoming a god as lower than becoming a human, because, since everything is impermanent, whe a god loses its power the resultant pain and sorrow is excruciating.Brian.

The fork in the road. You have free will. You can go left or right.God doesn't know which way you will choose, because you have free will.

That doesn't compute. God can know how you will choose even if you don't.

No, He will know which way you will choose because He knows everything. You come to the fork in the road, you don't know which way you will go, but God knws which way you are going to choose long before you do. If He doesn't know which way you will choose, then He isn't omniscient, thus He isn't God.Brian.Brian.