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jar
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Message 88 of 108 (298843)
03-27-2006 9:06 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by knitrofreak
03-27-2006 8:50 PM


Fine but still wrong.
just the same i think evolution is a fallacy that may seem logical to those who want to make them not responsible to a higher power they may need to answer to. but thats off topic as ive well been told.
That's fine, but way wrong. Almost every major Christian Church accepts the Therory of Evolution and opposes the teaching the myth of Biblical Creationism. So don't try that silly argument even in a thread where it would be on topic.
To quote from the Clergy Project, an open letter signed by over 10,000 US Christian Clergy, Priests, Pastors, and Ministers:
We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist. We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God’s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris. We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge.
Biblical Creationism is simply wrong and a retreat into Holy Ignorance.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 91 of 108 (298855)
03-27-2006 10:45 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by knitrofreak
03-27-2006 10:23 PM


Re: Fine but still wrong.
Certainly. But that still has nothing to do with the subject.
The point is that there is no conflict between Christianity and Evolution except in the Ghettos of Holy Ignorance.
But it also points to how silly some of the anti-evolution arguments are. For example, the dinosaur walks with humans issue is among the silliest.
Assume for a second that tomorrow, bright and early, we found living dinosaurs. Would that disprove the Theory of Evolution?
No! Not in the slightest.
What it would do is give us additional information so that we could now see just how the examples we find evolved over the last 65 Million Years, and a direct comparision against the other living dinosaurs, the birds. In the long run it would be among the most significant new areas of support for the TOE.
Biblical Creationism is simply false, a resort to Wilfull Ignorance and abandonment of the gifts GOD has given us.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 94 of 108 (298859)
03-27-2006 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by knitrofreak
03-27-2006 10:48 PM


Most Christian Churches accept Evolution.
i find it extremely interesting that you can belive in God and evolution. They dont even coencide
Well, it's not just me. It's all the Christians except those that are either wilfully ignorant or that have been kept in ignorance.
I already gave you a link to the Clergy Project. It is an open letter signed by over 10,000 US Christian Clergy, Ministers, Priests, and Pastors. Ten Thousand of them. All supporting teaching the Theory of Evolution.
To quote again from the Clergy Project, and this time read it carefully:
We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children.
Deliberatly embrace scientific ignorance.
Is that the Christian thing to do?
Do you really think GOD expects you to check your brain at the door?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 104 of 108 (312388)
05-16-2006 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by romajc
05-16-2006 2:31 AM


Re: Most Christian Churches accept Evolution.
So because I am christian, yet do not in any way believe in evolution I am wilfully ignorant?
Likely, you are being wilfully ignorant. But you are also very young so it is possible that you are simply ignorant. You probably have been taught in church and in homes to believe in a literal Bible. Since you are still so young the fault may not be yours but rather the fault of the pastors and teachers that are leading you astray.
You think evolution is so true right now, yet in 100 years the view of evolution will be very different. So in reality you will have been wrong all along, no matter how you look at it.
GOD willing and the crick don't rise. I doubt very much that our view of evolution will be much different, we will certainly have more details. As to having been wrong all along, that's life. We learn as we grow up. You'll find this out over time, and unless we intentionally stop learning, wilfull ignorance, then we will find that our knowledge and views do mature.
But if you beleive in a young earth, the flood, the garden of eden and a 6 day creation, then you are wrong today, would have been wrong 1000 years ago and will be wrong 1000 year in the future.
It really is as simple as that.
You act as if what you believe in is any more valid than what I believe in.
It is. What I believe about Evolution is supported by ALL of the evidence. What you believe is only supported by the lies that people tell you.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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