anti-abortion folks still get abortions

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Women are capable of having yeast infections without sex.

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That is so very true.

Rat, I wonder if you have gone to the Planned Parenthood and National Right to Life websites and compared what each group is doing to prevent unwanted pregnancies and therefore reduce the need for abortion? Of particular note on the PP site are the education, international, and health info sections.You had IMHO a very distorted view of which camp was doing what to reduce the incidence of abortion, so I just want to know if you have changed your view after learning more.This message has been edited by schrafinator, 03-30-2006 08:23 AM

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If you make an honest mistake it is not murder.

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What if you didn't make a mistake, but got pregnant anyway?Is it murder then?Oh, and by the way, if I make an "honest mistake" while driving my car and unintentionally kill someone, I can still be prosecuted for manslaughter, which is a serious crime.

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The fact that a fetus keeps growing, unless you disturb it, is proof positive that it has a will to survive.

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So, do tumors that keep growing unless we disturb them have a will to survive?

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Consentual sex or non-consentual?

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Either.

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Mansaulter is not murder.

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No, but you still go to prison for a long time if you are convicted of manslaughter.

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If a person knowingly drives a car drunk, he is responsible for the damage he does, it is no longer an accident.

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Who said anything about being drunk?I am talking about making an "honest mistake" while driving.

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If a person knowingly has sex, then they are responsible for the life that may begin afterwards. It is not an accident.

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So does this mean that you wish to force, by rule of law, all pregnant girls and women to carry their pregnancies to term? Or, should it be an individual choice between a woman, her doctor, and anyone else she decides to tell?Does this mean that you wish the government and law enforcement agancies to apply themselves to surveillance and prosecution of girls and women who seek or get abortions?And you never have answered holmes; why aren't you describing how you think you should be punished for deciding with your girlfriend to terminate her pregnancy?

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Knowing that life is precious from the moment it starts in the womb,

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So...you think that life starts after implantation?Or, does it start at conception?

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Is not a million to one sperm finding it's way into an egg after the beautiful act of making love, and starting a chain of events that will lead up to someone like you not one of the most beautiful things ever observed in the universe?

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I don't want to hear about the suffering childhood thing either, because some people have great childhoods, and suffer later, while some kids have a bad childood, and could turn out to be president.

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Yeah, and some kids have grown up to be Adolph Hitler, Jeffery Dahmer, and the Marquis de Sade.Using your logic, everybody everywhere should be having as many children as possible because of all the good that might be done by all of them.

Rat, I am wondering if you happened to get around to comparing the efforts of Planned Parenthood and the National Right to Life movement to prevent unwanted pregnancy? The links are in Message #166 of this thread.Thanks.