anti-abortion folks still get abortions

deletedpushed submit before post was ready -- sorryThis message has been edited by Chiroptera, 26-Mar-2006 01:25 PM

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Their lack of a moral back-bone and insincere proclamations puts them squarely amongst the other murderers.

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Who's to say that these people are insincere? It could be that these people really do sincerely believe that they not morally culpable of the offenses of which they are accusing others. People are complex entities, and from what I have observed in my short life is that people are capable of great leaps of rationalization and ad hoc reasoning, especially where their self-interest is concerned.Edited to get rid of the inappropriate subtitle.This message has been edited by Chiroptera, 26-Mar-2006 04:43 PM

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"Religion is the best business to be in. It's the only one where the customers blame themselves for product failure."
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After all, if the purpose of sending people to jail is to deter people from doing this in the future, what would be a better deterrent than making an example of RiverRat right now?

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"Religion is the best business to be in. It's the only one where the customers blame themselves for product failure."
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Maybe you could expand a little on what you think the essential differences should be, and the point out how your two examples lack this difference.Edited for clarity.This message has been edited by Chiroptera, 03-Apr-2006 01:37 PM

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"Religion is the best business to be in. It's the only one where the customers blame themselves for product failure."
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People say a fetus isn't life because if you remove it from the parent, or host, it can not survive on it's own.

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Not all people say that. Anti-abortion folks, for instance. Not even all pro-abortion people say that -- I don't say that, for example. So I guess I can be a Green Peace liberal without fear of hypocrisy, heh. (My mother will be so proud.)

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"Religion is the best business to be in. It's the only one where the customers blame themselves for product failure."
-- Ellis Weiner (quoted on the NAiG message board)

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That statement came from another thread really, where I asked someone who was atheist, and for abortion. I asked something to the effect if all life was important on earth, no matter how small it is. (he answered yes *edit)

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Well, the statement to which I was responding did not say, "This person says something, therefore this person is a hypocrite." You said, "People say something, therefore they are hypocrites."Come to think of it, "People say..." can mean "Some people say...." I interpreted it as, "All people say...." Just a reminder to be careful how you phrase things.Carry on.

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"Religion is the best business to be in. It's the only one where the customers blame themselves for product failure."
-- Ellis Weiner (quoted on the NAiG message board)

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Knowing that life is precious from the moment it starts in the womb, is not a medical decision, it's an obvious one.

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Judging by how many people disagree with you on this, I would say that it is not at all obvious.But seeing how the word "obvious" is used on this board by some people (not just riverrat), it seems that "obvious" must mean "what I personally believe".

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"Religion is the best business to be in. It's the only one where the customers blame themselves for product failure."
-- Ellis Weiner (quoted on the NAiG message board)

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Why do we even burden ourselves with that decision? Isn't the act of intercourse that starts the whole thing? Isn't it clear where the liability falls?

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There is nothing wrong with intercourse, there is nothing wrong with being pregnant, and there is nothing wrong with terminating an unwanted pregnancy. The "burden" of deciding when "life" starts is, indeed, and unnecessary burden, and it is not clear that there is any liability for anything.

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"Religion is the best business to be in. It's the only one where the customers blame themselves for product failure."
-- Ellis Weiner (quoted on the NAiG message board)