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Author | Topic: Judges 19 - Sickest story in the bible | |||||||||||||||||||||
Nighttrain Member (Idle past 4022 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
This is not my field of expertise. Has there ever been bones found with cancer on them? Hi, RR, the info regarding ancient cancers seems to be inconclusive. While the Croatian study of 4000 skeletons found little signs, the mean age of 36 years at death might have precluded the advance of cancer.http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...13_skeletoncancer.html While another examination of Egyptian mummies might trend the other way. http://www.earthchangestv.com/..._Part2_2001/0423mummies.htm This message has been edited by Nighttrain, 10-31-2005 09:20 PM
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Christian7 Member (Idle past 277 days) Posts: 628 From: n/a Joined: |
This story seems to me, to merely state that, sin has natural consiquences.
If I stick a pencil up your ass, won't you attack me, and beat the living shit out of me? So wheather or not the abuser or murderer was punished for his action (as RECORDED in the bible) does not matter. Because one sin, brought forth another sin, which cancel out the originally committed the sin. The new sin, will bring forth a chain reaction of more sins, that will naturally punish that sin. In modern days, the fear of being caught after a crime seems to punish the sin committed, and then the person is caught (ussually I think) and executed. So the person is punished. It is only natural that sins get punished. It is unfortinate though, that people, seemingly totally innocent, get caught up in all of this crap. And since one sin, can be against a totally innocent person, than it is only natural that it can bring forth other conflicts that lead to the mishaps of other innocent people. Imagine if we just all began forgiving one another, than we wouldn't react to each other sins in such away to make more sins. Than sin will continouslly decrease as long as we just keep forgiving. Now, this cannot really happen on earth these days, but it is just hypathetical, as the murderer will always (ussually) be a murderer, unless he REALLY wants to change REALLY BADLY.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 445 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
We have gone over this one before in the forums as well.
There are 5 different meanings to the word rape in the bible. Just because we don't understand an interpretation, doesn't mean there is no God. *edit*Its not the word rape in the verse that drives that law. It's the value of a woman's virginity. There is also much more to that law than just 50 schekels. You were then responsible for that womans saftey and well being for the rest of your life, or you were stoned to death. In other words, or the way you think, its the rape that lasts a lifetime, lolI don't think it was a common thing. This message has been edited by riVeRraT, 10-31-2005 10:20 PM
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 445 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Hey thanks.
I am sure there must have been some cancer. From a biblical stand point it would make sense that hereditary cancer may have stemmed from original sin. But that is only a passing thought, I have nothing to back it up. I also feel like we can be healed from it by God. To me the Egyptians would have been more likely to get cancer, as they were a more technologically advanced society, and possibly been introducing unGodly cancer causing toxins into their bodies. Just another passing thought. Either way, I do not like to mix science with the bible, I am not very learned in it, so I don't do well in guessing at things. I do like science, and I do love God. I am not a professional in either.
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6525 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
The Brick Testament
Here is a depiction of the story in Judges 19.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
I love the Brick Testament (notice the "nudity" and "sexual content" warnings).
People who think they have all the answers usually don't understand the questions.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
"Second Circumcision" is rather nice, too:
There.
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Christian Member (Idle past 6284 days) Posts: 157 Joined: |
Not that it makes much difference, but that was Peter, not Paul.
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DeclinetoState Member (Idle past 6466 days) Posts: 158 Joined: |
I'm not sure I'd ever want to do a Bible study on Judges 19, but here are some thoughts that I have about the story:
Judges is not my favorite book of the Bible. It seems that a lot of bad things happened to good people--and good things to bad people. Like Joshua, it's probably best not to take it too literally. Never overestimate the intelligence of someone who thinks you're wrong.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3956 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
It seems that a lot of bad things happened to good people--and good things to bad people. isn't that how life works?
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DeclinetoState Member (Idle past 6466 days) Posts: 158 Joined: |
quote: Yep. I think a lot of people go into the Bible hoping to find examples of good things happening to the good, and bad things happening to the wicked. Judges 19ff isn't one of those places, however, or so it seems.
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janice123  Inactive Junior Member |
Edited by AdminWounded, : Spam
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foxjoe  Inactive Member |
iano: God created us, thus any attribute we have is put into us by him. We might say that what he put into us is equal or usurps what he has/is. But we have no basis for saying that. That we are 'less' than God seems apparent in many ways. There is no reason to think different here.
It seems more and more likely, its the other way around.
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foxjoe  Inactive Member |
iano: God not being able to do something is not the same as God being restricted by something else from doing something. God cannotlie simply because there is nothing evil in him. Something which has no evil can do no wrong - by his own standard of course. God doesn't set the standard as such. He is it.
By that logic, God couldn't kill children either. But it says he did. Isn't that what we call a conundrum?
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foxjoe  Inactive Member |
Oh so sorry, I misread. He is really saying that it is OK for God to kill little children. Now why would I want to pray to that SOB?
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