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Salvation by faith and works : intellectually ridiculous?

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lfen
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Message 37 of 172 (305012)
04-18-2006 2:08 PM 		Reply to: Message 32 by iano
04-18-2006 1:36 PM

Re: Problems with the faith only approach
Whenever your inclined to be cross with him (or my puny representations of him) do remember what he did to his son. Will ya?
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Bear in mind that your puny representation of him has done and is doing it to a lot more than his son!
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lfen
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Message 42 of 172 (305025)
04-18-2006 4:17 PM 		Reply to: Message 41 by PaulK
04-18-2006 3:42 PM

Re: Intellectual mystery not intellectual insult
Your response is to claim that intellectual examination is invalid - when applied to your beliefs.
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I always thought that was the whole point of faith and why it was so insisted on by Christians, at least of the more conservative variety. Faith is used to silence or prevent examination of the dictates of the authorities. Don't question, don't think, have faith and believe what I tell you.
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For Iano to act otherwise would be contradictory, maybe even hypocritical?
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lfen
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04-18-2006 10:50 PM 		Reply to: Message 43 by PaulK
04-18-2006 4:29 PM

Re: Intellectual mystery not intellectual insult
Oh, no problem. I was agreeing with you only in a smartass bassackwards way to dramatize Iano's obtuseness in applying his double standard. I probably should have used a smiley or winkie or something.
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lfen
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04-19-2006 11:20 AM 		Reply to: Message 49 by iano
04-19-2006 5:13 AM

Re: Mock away Brian. But before you go...
Wiser still, avoid finding that evidence and choose the intellectual insult of not being able to know something about Gods ways.
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Are you God? What should we know about your ways that we don't already?
It's your assertions that are being questioned.
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Message 59 of 172 (305270)
04-19-2006 2:50 PM 		Reply to: Message 58 by robinrohan
04-19-2006 2:39 PM

Re: another perspective
That which is subjective is no good as evidence of anything.
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Your objective evidence to support this assertion is?
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