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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days)  Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
smak_84 writes: It's actually inconclusive if purgatory is a place or a state of being, or both. You also seem to imply that the Pope is the guy responsible for all of this.... I was just taking a good-natured poke at iano. I'm saying that my views on purgatory are similar to the Catholic Church's. I didn't mean any disrespect in the way I said it. 
(he is standing on 2000 years of theological research) Exactly.
If you think everyone is saved by default, why don't I just go hire some strippers.... Don't let me stop you.
... kill all the people I am angray at, and steal everyone's things? You'll go to jail. Plenty of punishment for those things in this life. No need to wait for the next.
Will I still go to Heaven if I do these things God decides, not me. According to Matthew 25, the good that you do will be weighed against the bad. According to my (hypothetical) scenario, you'll be slotted into the continuum depending on how you measure up.
(but I know I'm "saved" by faith so I can get away with it all!)?  Have you read any of my posts? Over a thousand - and six of them are pretty good.  I'm the guy who says your faith won't get you to heaven. Only your actions count.Go back and look at Message 128. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
iano writes: ... have watched some wriggling. I prefer to think of it as "skating on thin ice". But I'm Canadian - thin ice hath no fury for us.
I've heard some others mention the idea but have never heard from whence the idea came. Can't help you there. I thought it up out of a clear blue sky this morning. Took me almost an hour to figure out how to work Hitler in.
If you do post something biblical to give some support for your version of hell-the-continuum I'll leave it stand without comment.... As I said, I'll do my Bible study in Bible Study. Feel free to wriggle your way over there. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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