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CK
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Message 70 of 180 (312146)
05-15-2006 7:15 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by SuperNintendo Chalmers
05-15-2006 7:12 PM


Re: Right on, Whisper
yes but those were mud people (or is savage the correct term?) they clearly didn't deserve the protection of god.
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Message 93 of 180 (312915)
05-17-2006 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by simple
05-17-2006 3:15 PM


Re: Right on, Whisper
I've got to bit on this - which world leader is the anti-christ?

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Message 102 of 180 (313111)
05-18-2006 6:27 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by RickJB
05-18-2006 6:16 AM


Re: Utter bunk.
It's the toolkit of the fundermentalist. One that only contains two tools -
The pleading
quote:
surely you could try to get to know god?
God loves you and wants you to know him!
etc
and then the vague threats
quote:
Well the wicked are being punished
It's a judgement on the wiked
what if you were wrong and you went to hell
etc
Oh and then you have the combination of the two.
I'd hate for you not to know the love of jesus and burn in hell.
Edited by CK, : No reason given.
Edited by CK, : Combination of the two.

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Message 108 of 180 (313274)
05-18-2006 5:39 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by Faith
05-18-2006 5:37 PM


Let me get this straight - God created the earth 6000 years ago and it's basically been the end times for the last 1/3 of that?
Wow - what a shitty designer.

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Message 138 of 180 (315724)
05-28-2006 5:29 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by Brian
05-28-2006 3:24 AM


Re: A king can kill whoever he wants to...
Hi brian,
this is quite interesting -
quote:
But I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt, he will not listen to you. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and with mighty acts of judgment I will bring out my divisions, my people the Israelites. And the Egyptians will know that I am the LORD when I stretch out my hand against Egypt and bring the Israelites out of it."
Where is the free will in this? or are we about to get the usual "em..er.. it's OT and em.. it's different.

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Message 141 of 180 (315874)
05-29-2006 5:50 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by simple
05-29-2006 1:59 AM


Re: A king can kill whoever he wants to...
quote:
A natural concequence of going down the road of rejection of God, is that the heart gets hardened. God knows this. Yet, the Egyptian people still got a lesson in all this, despite the Pharoah. Nothing can stop God when He decides something is going to get done. Certainly not some bitter rejectee.
Hold on - that's NOT what it says. God EXPLICITLY states that it is he who has hardnened the pharoah's heart - he says it at least THREE times. Why do you feel it's accept to twist what the bible says to suit your agenda? Don't you believe it's the world of god?

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Message 157 of 180 (316378)
05-30-2006 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by simple
05-30-2006 7:08 PM


Another one strangely unable to read the bible
Great scot!
1984 writes:
O'Brien held up the fingers of his left hand, with the thumb concealed.
'There are five fingers there. Do you see five fingers?'
'Yes.'
And he did see them, for a fleeting instant, before the scenery of his mind changed. He saw five fingers,
Is that what happens to christians? they are unable to see what is actually on the page in their own religious text?
Look REALLY look at what it says in your bible:
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses.
Then the LORD said to Moses, "Go to Pharaoh, for I have hardened his heart and the hearts of his officials so that I may perform these miraculous signs of mine among them.
Is the bible wrong? Is god lying? It CLEARLY and EXPLICTLY states that a) God hardened his heart and b) the purpose was so he could use his powers. It's right there!
whisper writes:
So, yes, God hardened his hard already heart harder, basically. Not God's fault.
Ah so you don't believe in free will - what did you not say so to start with! You believe in the Cosmic puppetshow version.
Edited by CK, : No reason given.

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Message 160 of 180 (316385)
05-30-2006 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 159 by jar
05-30-2006 7:28 PM


Re: Inability to read
True true very true - I need to go to bed but I think there is a nice piece of meat there for an interesting spinoff topic...

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