Open Question For Jerry Falwell (and those who agree with him)

Ha. No, I was serious.Da 11:31 - And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.Da 12:11 - And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

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It IS amazing, isn't it? It's pretty much representative of the place though, as you will find if you stick around.

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People do what they can get away with. What they get away with tells us much about the place they get away with it in, true.

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Are you saying that the mass murder, genocide and cultural destruction done by Christians and Christian Missionaries is justified becaues "they did it too?"

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Christian missionaries never mass murdered anyone that I ever heard of. Nor did Jesus. What kind of nonsense are you spouting?

Nonsense. I never heard of missionaries killing anyone. Who did Livingstone mow down? What villages did he torch? None. How about William Duncan? He killed no one. (Missionary to natives on west coast of North America). Could you list say even 20 missionaries who were crazed mass murderers here as you seem to insinuate!!!? You are busted. -Phoney.

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One cannot claim the good without acknowledging the bad. We need to realize that while Christianity may do good, it has and is doing much that is evil. Even today, in the mainly Christian push to deprive people of their civil rights and liberties, Christianity is doing very great evil.

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Christianity is believing in Jesus, and trying to follow Him. No bad in there at all. It is the killers and such that claim Jesus wants then tioo do it that smell up the joint. That is the bad, not any real belief in the Prince of Peace.

So what? Missionaries never wiped them out any more than they nuked Hiroshima.Edited by whisper, : No reason given.

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Did missionaries actually participate in the killings? Probably some did, but who knows... but all of these atrocities (and many more) were carried out by Christians often using religious justification.

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Does this mean christians are worse than other groups. No, not really; all groups have done crap like this throughout history.

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Calling the killers Christians is as easy as saying that Christians are on a crusade now to wipe out muslims. That is not true. Certainly not missionaries. The bad guys were not the missionaries or genuine Christians. Whether you like to call them Christians or not.

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Come Judgement Day, who will decide who goes to Heaven and Who goes to Hell?

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We will! We decide that as we speak.

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Jesus also killed every living thing on the planet except for 8 people on an ark and some animals.

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He had to, the monkey bangers were wicked beyond all speaking.

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Jesus also murdered innocent Egyptian children after He had made sure that pharaoh was incapable of agreeing to let the Israelites leave Egypt.

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The Pharoh was quite capable of letting His people go. His own wicked mouth decided his judgement.

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Also, in one of the most hilarious verses in the Bible, Jesus ordered the murder of 185 000 Assyrians.

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2 Kings 19:35

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And it came to pass that night, that the angel of the LORD went out, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians an hundred fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.

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Enemies of God and His people.

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But Jesus (God) was a bloodthirtsy barbarian.

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That is a lie. He desires not the death of the wicked, and takes no pleasure in it. Sometimes it has to be done for the preservation of mankind, and His wonderful eternal plan for man. If He let the wicked wreck it up, we all would be doomed. Edited by whisper, : No reason given.Edited by whisper, : No reason given.

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So, there is really no need for Jesus to judge anyone?

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Depends if they have yet had a chance to receive Him or reject Him or not. If they have, they have sealed their own fate.

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How do you know this?

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Recent evidence suggests that chimps and men have interbred, if I have read it right. If it is true, then where else in a biblical past would this bad thing have occurred?

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Anyway, God Himself acknowledged that the Flood was an over-reaction; you think He would have seen it coming.

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???? I don't think so.

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The Bible explicitly states that God made it impossible for pharaoh to let the Israelites so that Yahweh could show off.

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A natural concequence of going down the road of rejection of God, is that the heart gets hardened. God knows this. Yet, the Egyptian people still got a lesson in all this, despite the Pharoah. Nothing can stop God when He decides something is going to get done. Certainly not some bitter rejectee.

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Love your enemies.

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It is amazing how one can develop a mindset that will allow that person to justify anything, no matter how abhorrent, and help maintain their fantasy.

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It was the possessed rejectee Pharoah that had a mindset that was abhorant. He wanted to hold God's people in heathen, pagan darkness and slavery when God said 'enough', let em go, pronto. Kids today in many schools are held in my opinion in heathen, pagan darkness and slavery as well! Watch out, God might stir.

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How do you know this?

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Eze 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?Thats how I know.

Why did He allow Pharoah's heart to be hardened? Because He felt like making the guy miserable? No. Because Pharoah rejected His message, His word via Moses. The word was rejected, not accepted or received. This is when God will send delusion. This is when a heart can be hardened. The decision is made already by the person.2Thes 2b:..because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Most 'Christians' are not missionaries. Most Christians did not sell whiskey to natives or give them smallpox on purpose.
The ones who supported masacres were duped, and wrong in most cases, I would say.
Like Bush, and those who support him. The Arabs think it is a "Christian" crusade. I disagree. Edited by whisper, : No reason given.

Ha. Well, let all the slaves go I say.

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if we think their actions demonstrate their lack of genuine belief, then we will be held to same standards. and all of our errors and shortcomings and failures will be held against us as evidence that we do not truly believe what we say. we do believe -- but we are human, and we fail, and we sin nonetheless.

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We shall stand in out lot, yes indeed. The bible is a good guideline. There it says our weapons are not physical, but spiritual. He that lives by the sword shall die by the sword. A tree is known by the fruits it bears. A good tree can't bring forth evil fruits. If we see evil fruits, we know the tree is evil.
If we are saved, we are saved, and will go to heaven when we die. But we can't call evil acts biblical, or what Jesus wanted and taught.The measure of 'Christian' is not in being numbered with multitudes of other mostly so called Christian people and what they think or do. Then labeling the whole package as 'Christian'. No. Some things, like nukes I believe, are so bad they should be destroyed. Those who use them don't do so at the behest of Jesus or the bible

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he regretted ever making anything because man was so evil.

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Right, man was so wicked He regretted it. So? He still fixed it, and sent a savior, and the plan is still going to be as planned.

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so this time it won't be bullied kids killing christians but christians and "god" killing everyone else? sorry

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Where is this again? Christians don't kill anyone. God did have to kill some to set the people free in Egypt, however, because they were so wicked they resisted His authority.

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The whole issue is that God didn't allow Pharoah's heart to be hardened - God actually hardened it.

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Cause and effect. Pharoah rejected God's word, hardened his heart and God sealed the deal. Only reason was because it was not God, butt Pharoah who made the choice. We have that. So, yes, God hardened his hard already heart harder, basically. Not God's fault.