The boasts of atheists (Atheist self-deception)

Maybe he's just not a true nihilist.TTFN,WK

Actually he didn't say anything much different than he's already said on the board here. Nothing to indicate to me that he's a Christian.But he HASN'T said atheists all believe a certain thing. In talking about atheist boasting, that's just about the atheists who boast, not all atheists, but a KIND of boasting that an atheist would do if an atheist boasted And I don't see this bit about how he's supposedly claimed to know what others think or believe.All a nihilist is is someone who believes there is no ultimate meaning to life. Most of you all here are nihilists, but you bury it under meanings you invent.

Yes, that is why we have hope for Robin, right?

You mean like the cooperative society we have to day. Co-operative society: a contradiction in terms if ever I saw one. The Hawthorne effect has a ways to go LarniA pat on the back from a computer programme designed by psychology aimed at "keeping the worker happy and productive".Give me a "Well done (or even "moderately done", or even "a little less than absolutely uselessly done") good and faithful servant" from someone who I respect - anyday.

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I sincerely think he already is a Christian who is playing a wee game.

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I have that impression also.

Sure I hope. And the relief from tension would be welcome to. This is knocking years off my life.

Robin a fifth columnist? Hmm, a not impossible angle - though I reckon he has the words "Ecclesiastes Man Personified" running down through him like a stick of rock

Well, the boasting irritated me.However, I think I would sum up my argument as follows: There is a tendency among non-believers, in their eagerness to prove to believers that one can be very happy, fulfilled, and of high moral character without any religious belief, to exaggerate their qualities and the qualities of their experiences--thus the boasting. This exaggerated view of oneself and of life in general might be advantageous in a practical sense--say in the business world--but it's no good philosophically. One has a skewed vision of oneself and of life.Ned in another thread spoke approvingly of a "healthy ego," but I do not find a sentimental view of oneself and of life to be healthy. I think it very unhealthy. Now it is true that from the standpoint of nihilism it doesn't in the long matter what one's view of life is. But I'm not speaking of the long run. Also, it is true that there is in a sense a sort of subtle boasting in many statements we make. If I make an argument, I am insinuating that I am right. But that sort of "boast" can't be helped, if one is going to say anything at all. When I speak of "boasting," I mean overt, blatant, self-praise.

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"Your friends, if they can, may bury you with some distinction, and set up a monument, to let posterity see that your dust lies under such a stone; and when that is done, all is done. Your place is filled up by another, the world is just in the same state it was, you are blotted out of its sight, and as much forgotten by the world as if you had never belonged to it."--William Law

Now, if he comes on and denies it, then we got him! Brian.

The latter, I think.

And using another definition of boasting than the one the context of his previous posts suggested.But, what he is seeing as boasting is not even anything that crosses an atheists mind, we don't go around thinking that we are happy without God, God is not an issue in our lives, God doesn't exist, it is an non-issue, yet Robin is forcing that on to our thinking. Well, when he says that what I suggested is dishonest he is saying that I am essentially thinking what he says I am, when I am not. I do not tell lies, it is one of my pet hates. Well, Christianity is nihilistic as well, so we are all in the same boat.Brian.

I don't know about the search-for-God part, but I really like your comment. Thanks.

You're right, Brain. Sorry about that.

No probs bud.Brian.

These comments about my secret Christianity are very amusing.I just can't handle the "wonder of life" syndrome.