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Topic: boasts of Athiests II
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robinrohan
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Re: A comment on "negativity"
Probably why I tutor (I will eventaully teach). Its wonderful hearing the variety of ways people attempt to explain something and or talk about how they enjoy a particular situation. (since alot of my work there is a great deal of informal talk). The biggest thing I've learned through all of my tutoring is that, why should I at all ne limited to enjoyment of my life through my own eyes, what is so hard from enjoying my own life from the eyes of another? (admittedly it does take quite a bit of energy to percieve it). Of course it admittedly does open a can of worms, but so long as the action has only direct influence on myself i see no problem with. Sentimental crap.
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Member (Idle past 5093 days) Posts: 272 Joined: 11-17-2005
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Re: A comment on "negativity"
I am definatly not sure how you are applying to sentimentality. All the definitions of sentimental and sentiment that i've looked up have appealed to emotional levels of discussion. Unless you are telling me that i'm being emotional about all of it. To my understanding i percieve as an intellectual endeavor to consider things from a variety of viewpoints...but i could be wrong?
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robinrohan
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Re: A comment on "negativity"
Think about your real motives.
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Member (Idle past 5093 days) Posts: 272 Joined: 11-17-2005
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Re: A comment on "negativity"
Umm... your ambiguity and vague statements do not allow me to to think about my 'real motives'. What is a real motive? Intellectual engagement is a motive, socialization and exploration is a motive?
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robinrohan
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Re: A comment on "negativity"
Oh, ok, I beg your pardon.
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Member (Idle past 5093 days) Posts: 272 Joined: 11-17-2005
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Re: A comment on "negativity"
I'm not certain, what are you apoligizing about?
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robinrohan
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Re: A comment on "negativity"
I'm not certain, what are you apoligizing about? I thought there might be other, more selfish, motives. My mistake.
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Member (Idle past 5093 days) Posts: 272 Joined: 11-17-2005
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Re: A comment on "negativity"
Idlely curious what kind of selfish motives were you thinking about, if you feel comfortable disclosing them?
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robinrohan
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Re: A comment on "negativity"
Advancing your career. Money.
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Member (Idle past 5093 days) Posts: 272 Joined: 11-17-2005
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Re: A comment on "negativity"
Why exactly do you consider the most negative aspects of a proposed person's statements or actions first?
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Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Message 191 of 300 (332152)
07-16-2006 3:36 AM
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What's weird is that the sentimentality and the sanctimonious motives that are so easily espoused here, the "wonder" and "joy" of life and so on, are like the "false self" or "inauthentic self" that was a popular theme in the fifties, that became part of the rebellsion of sixties, as "authenticity" became the Thing. But the authenticity of the sixties wasn't any more authentic than the inauthenticity they were supposedly transcending. It was just a new kind of facade and pretense that people convinced themselves was reality. Don't mind me. I'm just talking to myself. Return to discussion. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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robinrohan
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Message 192 of 300 (332165)
07-16-2006 10:02 AM
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Reply to: Message 191 by Faith
07-16-2006 3:36 AM
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But the authenticity of the sixties wasn't any more authentic than the inauthenticity they were supposedly transcending. It was just a new kind of facade and pretense that people convinced themselves was reality. What dominated the 60s among the liberal in-crowd was a moralistic, self-righteous political correctness. Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.
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robinrohan
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Re: A comment on "negativity"
Why exactly do you consider the most negative aspects of a proposed person's statements or actions first? I don't see anything particularly negative about advancing one's career. Obviously our selfish interests are very important to us. Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.
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Member (Idle past 5093 days) Posts: 272 Joined: 11-17-2005
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Re: A comment on "negativity"
I don't think you exactly answered my question, could you be a little more thorough?
Why exactly do you consider the most negative aspects of a proposed person's statements or actions first? To rephrase better I looked back and recognized that I was using selfish and negative interchangerably, Why exactly do you consider the most selfish aspects of a person's statements or actions first. Is it because Obviously our selfish interests are very important to us. and you feel that statement since it is true for yourself it applies to everyone? Or is there a different reason you consider selfish aspects first, that you frequently use selfish justifications before selfless ones, that others espouse selfish reasons prior to commitment or other reasons that you may propose?
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robinrohan
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Re: A comment on "negativity"
and you feel that statement[our selfish interests are very important to us] since it is true for yourself it applies to everyone? Yes, I think it applies to everyone.
Or is there a different reason you consider selfish aspects first, that you frequently use selfish justifications before selfless ones, that others espouse selfish reasons prior to commitment or other reasons that you may propose? I don't understand this convoluted sentence, but if I seem to be so negative, it's in an attempt to balance the picture, so to speak. Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.
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