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Buzsaw
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Message 115 of 285 (354621)
10-05-2006 11:52 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by PaulK
10-05-2006 5:40 PM


Re: The wrong idea of fairness
PaulK writes:
Yes I saw your reply and it was thoroughly wrong-headed. Creation "science" is not science because it places religious dogma over and above any empirical evidence.
PaulK, when you and others make statements like this, I see you and the others equally as problematic to productive debate as Admin sees Faith. There are good creationist scientists, many of whom are highly educated PHDs, et al and who do science equally as efficiently thoroughly and capably as evolutionist scientists.
For example Chris Miller, scientist and geologist, is a geologist for an oil company who for most of his life was an avid evolutionist. He is now an avid creationist and one of the best at refuting evolutionism with his unique approach as a geologist that I've read or heard so far. He recently gave three (abe: excellent seminar lectures open to the public) which I attended applying creationist interpretations to what is observed scientifically, clearly articulating technical problems with the evolutionist model regarding many claims of mainline science. I believe he has a web sight which you may google up. I've got it somewhere. I'd love to have him debate here, but likely he's too busy for that.
Chris Miller is one of scores of creation scientists and is one of a number who've come out of evolution to become creationists from what they have observed in science while doing science.
Regarding theology debates here, there are some prominent members who continually drive us who've been into the Bible extensively for decades daily up the proverbial wall, showing little evidence of sufficient knowledge of the Bible to debate effectively in some of the threads. I see this equally as frustrating as Admin see's Faith yet these folks rarely get honed in on as problematic members. They of course, represent the majority thinking on this site, thus enjoy immunity from the critique scrutiny the tiny minority IDist creationist memembership is sometimes subjected to.
Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Buzsaw
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Message 117 of 285 (354626)
10-06-2006 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by Faith
10-05-2006 11:40 PM


Science Speak
You make some good points here Faith and I pretty much concur with what you've said. I was posting before I read yours and I see we are thinking along the same lines put different ways. Most scientists are just too busy to do forums and when we of the peanut gallery try to make their arguments we don't state things elitely scientific enough to suit the scientists counterparts who are here.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Buzsaw
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Message 272 of 285 (355097)
10-07-2006 10:57 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by PaulK
10-06-2006 3:04 AM


Re: The wrong idea of fairness
PaulK writes:
If this is true it only supports my point. Flood geology has failed - apparently it has failed in spite of the abilities of the scientists involved. It follows that Flood geology is a blind alley of research - because it is based on false assumptions.
Contrary to your claim that there is no creation science, regardless of what you personally think of flood geology, bonafide practicing geologists who research flood geology arriving at alternative interpretations of what is observed are doing science.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Buzsaw
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Message 284 of 285 (355748)
10-10-2006 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 273 by ReverendDG
10-08-2006 12:08 AM


Re: The wrong idea of fairness
RDG writes:
i'd like to see this shown someday, all i've seen from the creationist side is faulty research and fudged evidence that turns out to be wrong
Regardless of your biased assessment of the research done by creationist scientists, research is part doing science. Creationist minded scientists over the centuries have likely done more overall to actually benefit the lives of mankind than evolutionist ones have.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Buzsaw
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Message 285 of 285 (355761)
10-10-2006 8:00 PM
Reply to: Message 278 by AdminNosy
10-08-2006 8:43 AM


Re: T o p i c !
My apologies for addressing Revs message, AdminNosy. I went directly to the message from my profile and posted before I saw your off topic warning.

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