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iano Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
iano writes: Even the most rabid athiest will accept that God of the Bible can well exist. alacrity writes: you, iano, used will as the 6 word of the sentence, and if you had used can that would be different I never posted about well. It seems there is a dimension beyond 'rabid'. My bad...
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Well I'm a rabid Christian so lets have a look see. I know Allah can't exist when I know God does. Someone who cannot exist cannot send me anywhere. What a chicken[____] copout. You started this thread with your silly insistence that we must concede the possibility that your conception of a deity must exist. You got honest answers from several people, me included, who were willing to go along with your premise to the extent of giving a substantive reply. Then you give this crap. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
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iano Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
You started this thread with your silly insistence that we must concede the possibility that your conception of a deity must exist. You got honest answers from several people, me included, who were willing to go along with your premise to the extent of giving a substantive reply Your substantive reply was: "Ditto CK and Ned" I didn't say he must exist. I supposed even the most rabid atheist must concide he could exist. C'mon Subbie..I've been around a little longer than that
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tudwell Member (Idle past 6009 days) Posts: 172 From: KCMO Joined: |
Many atheists don't concede that God, as described in the Christian Bible, can exist, just as you don't concede that God as described in the Koran can exist.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Yes, you proposed that even the most rabid atheist must concede that "God of the Bible" must exist. However, when the question was turned back on you, you were either intellectually or dispositionally incapable of assuming for the purpose of a similar question that allah might exist.
And you have the nuts to suggest that someone else is beyond rabid. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
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iano Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Yes, you proposed that even the most rabid atheist must concede that "God of the Bible" must exist. I proposed nothing of the sort. For the benefit of you alone I'll go back to clarify
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
You are quite correct. You did not say "must" in your OP. That was my typo in my previous post.
Mea culpa. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
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iano Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Edited nonetheless. Best to be as clear as possible. Cheers Subbie..
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iano Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Many atheists don't concede that God, as described in the Christian Bible, can exist, Name one who gives a basis for so holding.
just as you don't concede that God as described in the Koran can exist. I'm in a different position to the atheist. An atheist cannot know God doesn't exist. Whereas I can know he does. And if I do then I can know all sorts of things as a consequence of that amongst which, Allah doesn't exist. We float not in the same boat, the atheist and me.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
I'm far less interested in your editing than I am in seeing whether you have the intellectual honesty and faith on your own belief to respond to your own question turned back on you.
Seems I have my answer. Edited by subbie, : No reason given. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
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iceage  Suspended Member (Idle past 5945 days) Posts: 1024 From: Pacific Northwest Joined: |
If you believe the things you believe then it is not too far a stretch to accept that the Catholic church may be right in their view. Too far a stretch? You've got to be kidding me It would be a far shorter trip for you to be come a Catholic than would be for me to believe in your bronze age concept of a god. Really quite tragic that you are risking damnation for such a small philosophical adjustment? BTW your sidestep was noted...
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iano Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
If you have a problem with the answer I gave your queston then address it. Don't curl your lip without due process. This is a debate website - not a posturing parlour.
Edited by iano, : No reason given.
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iano Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
It would be a far shorter trip for you to be come a Catholic than would be for me to believe in your bronze age concept of a god. How dry is the chalk and how ripe the cheese is something we could go on and on about. Needless to say RC is light years away from Christianity as far as I am concerned. I ain't willing to discuss how many light years to the nearest bazillion with you*. {AbE} *Well I am: how close is salvation by mans works vs salvtion by Gods grace - in light years?
Really quite tragic that you are risking damnation for such a small philosophical adjustment? Like I said - light years
BTW your sidestep was noted... Remind me svp. Edited by iano, : No reason given.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3959 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
try reading the koran. you know, they do have english translations.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
And how did I misrepresent the Koran?
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