Immigration issues

Hi gene90.You do know that 3/4 of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants pay SSI, Medicare, and personnel income tax? In 1996 the IRS began issuing identification numbers .

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And another vital thing happened in 1996: the Internal Revenue Service began issuing identification numbers to enable illegal immigrants who don't have Social Security numbers to file taxes.

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One might have imagined that those fearing deportation or confronting the prospect of paying for their safety net through their own meager wages would take a pass on the IRS' scheme. Not so. Close to 8 million of the 12 million or so illegal aliens in the country today file personal income taxes using these numbers, contributing billions to federal coffers. No doubt they hope that this will one day help them acquire legal status ” a plaintive expression of their desire to play by the rules and come out of the shadows.

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Illegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You ThinkWith the passage of IRCA(immigration reform and control act) SSI has seen a mushrooming of the 'Earning Suspense File'

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Starting in the late 1980's, the Social Security Administration received a flood of W-2 earnings reports with incorrect - sometimes simply fictitious - Social Security numbers. It stashed them in what it calls the "earnings suspense file" in the hope that someday it would figure out whom they belonged to.

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The file is for earnings filed under a bad number. For the '90s it totaled 189 billion dollars

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The file has been mushrooming ever since: $189 billion worth of wages ended up recorded in the suspense file over the 1990's, two and a half times the amount of the 1980's

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Now it is increasing by 50 billion per year

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In the current decade, the file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year, generating $6 billion to $7 billion in Social Security tax revenue and about $1.5 billion in Medicare taxes.

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Social Security officials do not know what fraction of the suspense file corresponds to the earnings of illegal immigrants. But they suspect that the portion is significant.

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"Our assumption is that about three-quarters of other-than-legal immigrants pay payroll taxes," said Stephen C. Goss, Social Security's chief actuary, using the agency's term for illegal immigration.

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Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security With BillionsTo sum it up: Over 8 million illegals pay federal taxes by using IRS issue identification numbers. Nearly the same amount pay $150(the price in California) for a package that supplies them with a fake ID and SSI number then use this to gain employment, out of their checks FICA and Medicare taxes are then payed in and they are unable to ever receive. Edited by alacrity fitzhugh, : No reason given.Edited by alacrity fitzhugh, : No reason given.

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Nemesis_juggernaut:In 1996 the IRS started issuing Identification numbers that illegal immigrants started using to pay federal taxKnight Ridder/Tribune News Service May 1, 2006

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One might have imagined that those fearing deportation or confronting the prospect of paying for their safety net through their own meager wages would take a pass on the IRS' scheme. Not so. Close to 8 million of the 12 million or so illegal aliens in the country today file personal income taxes using these numbers, contributing billions to federal coffers. No doubt they hope that this will one day help them acquire legal status ” a plaintive expression of their desire to play by the rules and come out of the shadows.

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They also buy packages with fake ids and social security numbers. The part of their wages that go to fica and medicare are under false numbers an placed in the 'Earning Suspense File'

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Starting in the late 1980's, the Social Security Administration received a flood of W-2 earnings reports with incorrect - sometimes simply fictitious - Social Security numbers. It stashed them in what it calls the "earnings suspense file" in the hope that someday it would figure out whom they belonged to.

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read-Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security With Billions

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Maybe you should be more upset at the ones who use loop holes to avoid taxes.You say this

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It sure would be nice for everyone not to have any deductions on their W-2's

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which is automatically provided at payroll before you receive your pay kind of like

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And if you consider things, like sales tax, which is automatically provided at the cash register
msg 44

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You first started of saying

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Because "illegal" immigrants don't pay taxes. Legal immigrants do, which everyone is all for
msg 44

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jar then stated in msg 45 how you were wrong by naming taxes that illegals pay.you then moved the goalposts in msg 48

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Paying "sales" tax when you purchase items does not constitute paying taxes.

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In the same message you asked

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How can you pay taxes when you aren't even on file with the IRS?

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That easy to answer . The IRS has a system using an identification number that illegals are using by the millions. You then state

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Can't fill out a W-2 without a Social Security card.

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Which I showed in
msg 70 you are wrong since their buying packages with false IDs and SS cards

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...So, I'm wrong how?

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You seem to not have all the facts.Continuing in msg 48

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You haven't substantiated how illegal aliens pay taxes.

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Jar did not I did msg 70

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the Internal Revenue Service began issuing identification numbers to enable illegal immigrants who don't have Social Security numbers to file taxesIllegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You Think.

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Continuing: You asked

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" Ever heard of someone going to prison for "sales tax evasion?"

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which Dan Carrol So happily showed you in msg 50You then moved the goalpost in msg 78 by changing it from (sic) Ever heard of someone going to prison for "sales tax evasion?" to (sic)We're talking about consumers that have an illegal resident status,you said someone( highlighted in red) not illegal. Continuing:

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How can you register your car if you're not a citizen? How can you get a driver's license if you aren't a citizen? Don't you need at least two forms of identification and a bill establishing a legal residence?

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California the package cost 150 dollars and comes with two forms of ID, an ID card + SS card, simpleIllegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security With Billions.To finish with As I have shown-they buy the package go use the fake ID and SS card get the job. The employer then sends in the FICA and Medicare taxes to the IRS. Upon the IRS finding out that it is a bogus number it goes into "earnings suspense file"msg 70

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Starting in the late 1980's, the Social Security Administration received a flood of W-2 earnings reports with incorrect - sometimes simply fictitious - Social Security numbers. It stashed them in what it calls the "earnings suspense file" in the hope that someday it would figure out whom they belonged to.

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So again lets sum it up shall we:Illegals pay taxes when they pay their cable bill, phone bill, electric-gas-water-sewage bills, they pay taxes when they purchase non sales tax exempt merchandise at a grocer/ retailer, they pay property tax through rent, they pay FICA and Medicare tax out of their paychecks by using a fake SS number ( and will never receive credit for this),they pay federal taxes through the system the IRS set up in 1996. So are you know willing to concede you were misinformed?Let us return to the issue raised earlier:Is it racist what the minutemen are doing? Answer these questions1) Are the minutemen patrolling both theUS/ Canadian border and US/ Mexican border?2) If not , why?Edited by alacrity fitzhugh, : No reason given.

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