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nator
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Message 274 of 307 (422657)
09-17-2007 10:03 PM
Reply to: Message 273 by Cold Foreign Object
09-17-2007 9:51 PM


Re: Atheist Evangelism
quote:
what is your source and basis for belief that Christians are under a delusion?
There are at least tens of thousands of Christian denominations worldwide, each believing different things.
They can't all be right when they hold contradictory views of what the Truth(tm) is.
Therefore, the vast majority of them, by definition, are deluded.

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nator
Member (Idle past 2199 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
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Message 293 of 307 (425404)
10-02-2007 7:31 AM
Reply to: Message 290 by CTD
10-02-2007 4:03 AM


Re: reply continued
quote:
It is commonly maintained that God cannot love sinners and at the same time intend to punish them. It is also maintained these days that a parent cannot correct a child, and to do so constitutes abuse.
Nonsense. Correction of a child is never considered abuse.
Violence or cruelty towards a child is considered abuse.
Would you consider eternal damnation in a lake of fire to to have much corrective value, since once the sinner is there, they have no hope of ever getting out to demonstrate that they have learned from the "correction"?
What you are describing is punishment, not correction or teaching.
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Both of these claims are false. Love requires a parent to do what's best for the child.
When is it ever "best" for a child to be eternally, cruelly punished with no hope of being able to demonstrate doing better in the future? Sounds more like a sick, dysfunctional relationship than that of a loving, instructive parent.

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