The "Circle of the Earth"

It may have been touched on, but here is my take on what the circle of the earth may mean there.God is known to have a flying throne, or 'saucer'. (Eze 1) If He maintained some orbit,(on various visits) that would be a circle.

Well, that could be a circle to some, but the particular circle here is one God sits on. Since God is known to have a flying saucer, there is no reason to assume that He would not orbit the earth, or even hover. Either way, the verse is no challenge.

OK. so you have some problem believing there really is a cool Almighty that has wheels. OK. So?Edited by simple, : No reason given.

Who cares what they had, or what you think they had?? The important point is what did the One that inspired the bible mean??? And let's not pretend that you have some evidence He never inspired it.

So,ignoring what God, who was the One way up there on the circle of the earth looking down on men as grasshoppers, may have meant is backward in your book. OK. Perhaps we should ask the grasshoppers, then, to please you.

Without form, and void in the created state could mean a lot of things. It could mean that water and land, perhaps, were not separated, or almost what we might call a little mucky?? Then, He divided the land from the waters, and we got, what we call Pangaea.
Or, I think some simply interpret that it had a different form..
" It was not in the form it now is, otherwise it must have a form, as all matter has; it was a fluid matter, the watery parts were not separated from the earthy ones; it was not put into the form of a terraqueous globe it is now,"
Genesis 1 - Gill's Exposition of the Whole Bible - Bible Commentaries - StudyLight.orgBasically, we can't look for present environments and try to say that the lack of form at creation was like that! That is very narrow minded.

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So I take it your god would drive some cool wheels? Which one would you figure, Austen-Martin? Lamborghini? 67 Shelby Cobra?

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No, wheels that fly. Assuming the bible is taken into account, and we don't just go by your silly imagination.

Right, to believe in a God, as the bible describes Him, including the flying throne, is foolish in your eyes. OK. Not like you have the slightest evidence for your incredulity. Of course.

That's what God does, He zips around in a flying saucer, according to the bible. Since the circle of the earth phrase is also from the bible, and explanations are needed, it is only natural to look to the same document for reasons.The kinds of evidence we have for God and the bible are not natural science evidences, if that is what you are hinting at. Of course. That is because, by and large, they are knowledge of things supernatural.We can not ride on your personal, unfounded incredulity alone on issues of the ancient documents of scripture.The door swings both ways. It is backward to assume the God did NOT inspire these words and thoughts without proper evidence. You want to ponder what God said by assuming these are the Not thoughts of God. You need evidence for that.

Eze 1:15 Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces. 16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD.That is the bible. The term flying saucer is the modern one, of course the wheels of God are not 'saucers'.But, if one was to ride on the thing, one would see the people as little bugs in size. One also could maintain an orbit.

The whirlwind from heaven was not DNA. That simply does not fit the bill.
Over in chap three, it seems that Zeke got a ride up up and away. He was lifted in the 'spirit' up. Again, the wheels of God are right there.12 Then the spirit took me up, and I heard behind me a voice of a great rushing, saying, Blessed be the glory of the LORD from his place. 13 I heard also the noise of the wings of the living creatures that touched one another, and the noise of the wheels over against them, and a noise of a great rushing. 14 So the spirit lifted me up, and took me away,Then, in chap 10, we see it was a throne.1 Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne.Even in Daniel it refers to this.
Dan 7:9 .. and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.The mobile sapphire throne of God. I call it the "Scepter"

"Need"?Hey, why not have this Rolls Royce of flying machines, that can travel the expanse of this universe is style?? Other universes as well, perhaps. (doesn't mean He could not tork around if He felt like it, without the throne.While visiting earth, He might hover, or set up an orbit. Either way the verse is wonderfully bang on.How anyone would see that as demeaning, I have no idea at all.Oh, and any orbit He assumed would not be uncontrolled.Edited by simple, : No reason given.Edited by simple, : No reason given.

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In English, perhaps. That is why we explore earlier versions.

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Doesn't matter from the Hebrew, it is still unknown, really how it was meant, precisely.

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FYI: 'fluid' is a form of matter.

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True, so the bible commentary you quoted feels there was matter here. So?? Something wrong with matter?

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Yes. They do. And how is that "without form?"

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Well, one supposes that, according to their take, the translation should be read a bit like 'without present form'! Or, perhaps, without after creation week form' etc. Simple.

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What present environment would you say is "without form?"

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Now that He already done formed the earth, how is it you would expect to find parts of it still unformed??One might grab for some features of this already formed earth, to try and get some rough comparison. I might grab at the La Brea tar pits, but that is so rough, it isn't meant to really nail the pre formed earth, where the waters were not yet separated from the land.

Thank you. One must try to see things in the perspective they were framed. DNA is not something of the size, and ability to come in from the heavens, accompanied by angels, carrying the Ancient of Days, and His sapphire throne. That is elementary.

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The question is, "Why would He?" What appurtenances outside of God could possibly make His travel "in style"? How could anything aside from God be relevant?

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It is inter dimensional, and comfy, and the angels that like to tag along are accommodated?

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Again, a very belittling picture of God, suggesting He isn't here all the time.

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Why would He hang out on this sinful speck all the time?? He will move here forever when the new heavens come, but, even then, I guess He likes to boggie around. This will just be the HQ. The central command. The universe hub.
If you mean that His spirit is in all, and all that sort of thing, yes. In that sense, He is always here. If we mean the God body, why, how else could He have a circuit of the expanse of the heavens, if He always stayed put??

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As somebody has already mentioned, the horizon is always seen as a circle. The ancient writers would have recognized that the higher you get, say on a mountain top, the bigger that circle is. The verse implies that God is higher than any mountain top, higher than man can ever get.

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Your "orbit" brings Him down to a height that man can attain.

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They could NOT attain an orbit then. They had to hustle to try and build a tower to the heavens, in the time of Babel. In the time of the major prophets, they still had no rockets, or even planes, if you recall!
So, of note would be a ship that did just that. Besides, man could not BEGIN to go where the mobile sapphire throne of God can. We barely got to the moon.No biblical need at all to limit God, or His throne, and call what was described an embellishment. Man's limited imagination needs some embellishment, having been tied down for so long by the boring limits of poor little science.