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Author Topic:   The "Circle of the Earth"
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Message 2 of 307 (65476)
11-09-2003 9:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Chiroptera
11-09-2003 8:47 PM


Re: The circle of the earth
Chioptera
I am the one who brought up the notion of a hebrew word for "ball" and I found the phrase,lo and behold in Isaiah.
Isa 22:18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee [like] a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory [shall be] the shame of thy lord's house.
This I found in the Blue Letter Bible and they show the phrase "thee [like] a ball" as 'duwr' in hebrew.
So it would appear they had the means to show a proper difference between circle and sphere.

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Message 32 of 307 (65708)
11-10-2003 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by mike the wiz
11-10-2003 8:47 PM


Re: desperation?
Mike
It would seem to me that the heighest point in a given large area[say, 50 miles to the horizon] the land a person lives in does indeed appear to be a circle.I can state quite confidently since I have climbed many mountains where this is the view from the peak. It is easy to imagine from the top of a mountain that you are looking at a great circle.
The view from space[which is where Isaiah would have to be to view the earth]it is obviously three dimensional and you would have to be quite dull to miss the earth moving below.

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Message 45 of 307 (66008)
11-12-2003 7:07 AM
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11-12-2003 6:42 AM


Re: desperation?
Mike
That is why I said the view from space is required. All the nations of Earth are visible over an extended time there,however,the obvious sphericity of the Earth would be apparent if that were the case.And what a poor acounting of a trip high enough above the planet to view the Earth.How Isaiah did not find it in his nature to write volumes on the experience is beyond me.
Oh dear, do you suppose it really didn't happen?
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Message 51 of 307 (421357)
09-12-2007 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by iceage
09-12-2007 12:45 AM


Re: Circle != Spherical
iceage
Is there a ancient Hebrew word for sphere?
There is a word for ball which implies that there is a concept of a sphere. The word is duwr and can be found here
Bible Search and Study Tools - Blue Letter Bible

It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.
Charles Darwin

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Message 81 of 307 (426412)
10-06-2007 2:55 PM
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10-06-2007 4:21 AM


Re: The circle of the earth
Simple
As more prosaic explanation for the notion of a circle in the ancient world would be from a mountain vantage point wherein the view to great distances can indeed be thought of encompassing a great circle beyond the horizon of which nothing can be determined.

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Message 296 of 307 (434993)
11-18-2007 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 294 by Force
11-18-2007 1:18 PM


Re: The circle of the earth
KISS
That is a theoretical belief. I am done here.
Ah. A fine debate tactic. Make a claim against a person and then run away before you have to show your line of arguement.

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