The "Circle of the Earth"

Stop making up that God was not the Lord that was on the throne and flew in those wheels. Stop pretending you have the slightest inkling what the circle of the earth is. Stop pretending He could not hover on the circuit, and look down on us as grasshoppers. Start backing up your words.Rhetoric is empty, and the time for sounding brass is long past. Unless you got something, you got nothin.

This has nothing in the way of substance. He flies around as is clear, and in this case He sits on a circuit of the earth.No projection needed. Nothing about Isaiah indicates otherwise.No real discussion could be more real that looking at what the circle is. I think we all know who sat on it.

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There is no "circuit of the universe" in the passage we are discussing. You need to look at Isaiah 40 and understand what it means before you can assume that other passages are related.

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There is a circuit of the heavens, indeed. The word circuit means circle. That applies to the passage about the circuit or circle of the earth.Very much. It shows that this circuit God sits on, and looks down on earth does not refer to it's shape, in point of fact.Job 22:14 - Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven.definition1. circle, circuit, compassCheck, and mate.

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We've only been saying "circled the earth" since we've known the earth is round. In this discussion, the shape of the earth is the question. Claiming that "the circle of the earth' means going "around" the earth is a circular argument.

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First of all, we have no idea what we used to say before modern science in that regards. If we were to circle around a square asteroid, we would still circle it. The circle refers to OUR circuit, not the shape of what we circle!!

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Anyhow, if God took His wheels over the earth, and hovered over an area He wanted to focus on, He could sit on the circuit of the earth.

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No He wouldn't. Hovering is not circular motion.

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The earth rotates, and orbits the sun. That provides the movement. If there was a circuit around earth that He usually favored, He could indeed sit on part of it hovering. Just like we could pick a point in the trajectory of a satellite, and run up there, and do a space walk, or somehow stay on the one point in the circuit. Simple.

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No it doesn't. The word "circuit" implies a path - i.e. movement - and not necessarily a circular path. Isaiah does not suggest that God is moving at all. On the contrary, the word "sitteth" suggests strongly that He is stationary.

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Doesn't matter at all if He was moving, the point is that the circuit or circle He uses seems to be a certain path. Whether He sits or hovers on a point in that path, or goes around it, sitting on a throne it matters not. The path, or circle is still there.

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Job 22:14

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is irrelevant. We're talking about Isaiah.

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Comparing scripture with scripture, and checking the contexts of the Hebrew words, is anything but irrelevant. It is needed.

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That's exactly what I've been saying. The topic is about the shape of the object. Even if God did circle around the earth in a Radio Flyer or on a toboggan, it would be irrelevant to this discussion. If you think Isaiah says nothing about the shape of the earth, you're done. You've conceded.

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Yes, I don't think the shape of the earth was the object of what was being said there. Of course I concede that. If that is your point, you are correct.

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no, that's what i'm saying. your posts contribute nothing of worth. you just go on, and on about the same old things. never in any depth, just in one-liners. as you have done here. you don't support your arguments. you don't even argue your arguments. you just say them and expect your genius to convince us all.

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I supported the bejesiz out of it six ways from Sunday. God has wheels. Your denial is getting petty.

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no, you are projecting. you claim my posts have not been substantiated -- but only because you don't happen to think that reading the book, or studying the language it was written in, or actually understanding context has any merit. no, the only "substantiation" that will do for you is "the holy spirit told me so."

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well, the holy spirit told me you were wrong.

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are we done here?

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Big talk for saying absolutely nothing! I substantiated a case for what the circle of the earth likely is from the bible. I haven't seen you bring anything from Isaiah to back up a case, if you even have one.Mine is clear, I don't even know what yours is. The more you talk, the foggier it becomes. Stop trying to impress us, and make a case, or get off the pot.

No, I think your doubts are not founded on reality of any kind. God inspired the compilation of the records we had. No better way exists to learn about His plan, and message.

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But you're not comparing scripture with scripture. You're taking a hare-brained interpretaion of Ezekiel and a hare-brained interpretaion of Job and projecting them onto Isaiah, where they have no relevance.

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The relationship of circuit to circle is absolutely relative, and the fact that the universe also has a circle helps shed light on the circle of the earth of Isaiah.

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And you're still missing the fact that this is a science thread. Comparing scripture with scripture has no place here.

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Anywhere that the bible is brought up, a proper balance of what the bible means is perfectly in order, and phooey on crippled science that is not even a minor league player in the fields of the Lord, and the bible.When the bible is in a science thread being discussed, there has to be room for a proper understanding and balance of what it means, ot keep it out of your would be kangaroo court. I mean that.

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The question still is: Did the author(s) of Isaiah know the earth is spheroidal? God "orbiting" or hovering doesn't answer that question.

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The question of what the circle of the earth is has nothing to do with the shape of the planet, regardless of what the authors of the bible knew!!!!I would say they did know, because they directly talked to flying beongs who saw it plenty! We don't need to contort a good verse about something else to establish that obvious fact.

No one says the circle of the earth is some merkabah. The flying throne of God is what sits on the circle of the earth when in the area. The circle may be a path, like an orbit. You are not the only one that can infer meaning. It depends on what you think it is parallel TO, and why, whether it has any merit. I use the other parts of the bible as a basis, for my interpretational orbit. If you can't do that, yes, I think your efforts are as described. You know this how??? By the way, the word they used for Holy spirit as a he, could be used as a she as well. What point is that?? I point, you point, we all point to no point here, apparently. Nice try. I prefer a more well rounded approach to the circle of the earth. Having God sit on a path around earth, in His mobile throne fits the bill. It is a simple point. A clear point, and one that fits the bible. Your aversion to anything that sounds like a UFO cannot be the only guide through the mysteries of the bible.Edited by simple, : No reason given.

And of course all so called errors in the bible are errors in some men's perceptions of what actually is being said. A good example is the flat earth nonsense. Another is the obsessing on the circle of the earth, with some literal interpretation, that tries to make God out as not knowing the shape of the earth He made.
Give a little credit, and benefit of the doubt, will you?