The "Circle of the Earth"

Brian,The context of judges 1:19 is a sub context of judges 1:8. My only other argument is that the Bible should not be interpreted literally. We don't have the autographs which means we don't have the original writing. Who knows what was removed/added to the contexts of any scriptures.OOC:
My only advice is to remove the limitations of your thinking. I am a believer in Science. I agree with Big Bang, Abiogenesis, and Evolution. I, although, believe Science will one day understand God and also other forms of life that are outside of Biology.Edited by trossthree, : limitations....Edited by trossthree, : err

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Brian,Eh. Wow. I tripped your trigger. LOL. Oh, and not one single part of the Bible should be interpreted literally. Jesus may very well be a metaphore. Jesus may very well never have existed. However, I choose to believe in Jesus =).The fact that the biblical manuscripts/translations available fail to have 100% congruence indicates that there is error in biblical scriptures. Who is to say what context of any part of the Bible is the original meaning? I mean, like I said, we simply don't have the autographs of the Bible.The point I am trying to make is that the IDEA of God creating a ROCK that it can't move is simply retarded. The question relies on GOD doing the physical movement. If God devised a way to move the rock, such as using a hyster to move the rock, then God is not moving the rock. If I said there is nothing I can't do I am GOD. Then you asked me: Can you create a rock that you can't move? Then I created a ROCK I can't move. I knew this because I tried to move it solo. That would show that I am not GOD? That I am limited to what I can do? wrong. Now all I have to do is devise a way to move the rock, and that does not mean I did not create a ROCK that I can't move. Your metaphore is simply for simple minds. Ponder this: Remove the limit of trusting in things that are only possible. Try to believe in things that are impossible. Accept possibility the impossible. You seem to sure to me and it's annoying. Ofcourse, if you want to limit your self to simply believing that Science is absolute or Philosophy is absolute or both then that is your choice. Just remember you're choosing to believe these things and in which case it's what you want to believe. Which is no different then anyone else. Including people like me: FUNDY'S. LOL. Remember KISS. a paradox? LOL.P.S. Not even Isaiah 40:22 should be interpreted literally. We could not understand it literally even if we wanted to. We don't have the autographs of the Bible. KISS.Edited by trossthree, : No reason given.Edited by trossthree, : No reason given.

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Ringo, There is simply not enough FACT to conclude anything from Isaiah 40:22 except GOD is being exalted.Edited by trossthree, : No reason given.

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Jar, Sources? Who is to say that: "Isaiah" in fact thought the Earth was a circle; just because it was common then according to what we know now. In this case above we have probability, on probability, on probability! The only conclusion we can have in this case is that there is not enough evidence to conclude "what Isaiah knew about the earth".

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Jar,So, now we know what other people thought of the Earth then but how does that directly prove what Isaiah thought?Edited by trossthree, : No reason given.

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jar,I have already glossed over the fact that the Bible can't be interpreted literally.P.S. I don't think you're going to accept the Bible can't be interpreted literally but that is fine because that is your choice. However, how is it philosophical to trust something that is known to have many errors?Edited by trossthree, : No reason given.Edited by trossthree, : No reason given.

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Brian, Poor Brian. Why do you consider me a fundy? The Bible is a book that contains scripture that was hand copied for thousands of years by historical people that we do not know. The Bible is also known to have many errors when you compare the scripture to other scriptures(manuscrpits/translations).http://EvC Forum: Inerrant Bible Manuscripts? -->EvC Forum: Inerrant Bible Manuscripts? I never said that Jesus offered anything more. I believe that scripture contains a spiritual message. The spiritual message is not restrained to simple literal interpretations. I am not a denominational Christian and I don't walk around with a picket sign "BELIEVE IN JESUS OR GO TO HELL". I am going to level with you Brian. I have no idea how old you are or what educational background you have but I will say in the past I have found your posts interesting. Now for you to result to insulting my intelligence because we disagree is adolescent. The hyster is being controlled by an individual(i.e. god) but the hyster is doing the work. The devise does not have to be an animate entity it can be used to do the work. I am showing the error for your "paradox". So, really, it is not a paradox either. Look I am not trying to make this personal, so I am not sure why you result to insulting me. To answer your question: because anything is possible. So, you are an example of a literate person? A literate person insults other people to achieve his goals? evidence is simply an indication it does not prove anything. No. People of the spirit have revelations. So, what are you saying? Metaphor:I am glad you spent all those years under the table hitting your head. =). However, just because you like to do that does not mean other people do. Paradox: If you were not so intelligent I would need God. LOL. I graduated from high school 8 years ago. Maybe but it is not important that to is a metaphor. I am sorry if I missed one of your prudent questions. Let me stand up while you bow down. LOL. Can we stop now?Edited by KISS, : No reason given.

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Jar,I respect your post I will respond later I have some things I have to do. Sorry.

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Jar, When I fix a java issue with IE on my PC we will have a conversation. Ok. Ok. Ok. Ok. As I read your post I seem to agree with you. However, one must also take into account for the many errors in the Bible.Edited by KISS, : No reason given.

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Jar, That is one of the supported theories but I think it is silly to conclude that.

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jar,My interpretation of that verse is simply that GOD is being exalted. To read it any other way is silly because of the errors that are included in the Bible. We have no fact to prove otherwise. I will agree there are other theories with some support but mine has support as well. The errors.

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Brian, That is a theoretical belief. I am done here.P.S. I thank you for reminding me of the grammatical errors in my posts. However, it is typical for an atheist to attack the grammatical errors in a post rather than the point at hand. I also want you to know that just because I disagree with you does not mean that I don't know what a paradox or a mataphor is. I am aware that a paradox is a contradictory statement that has truth. I am also aware that a metaphor is a statement that implies something different than the literal interpretation. I am also aware that you will probably run to dictionary.com and fight my definitions so I will post them below.METAPHOR:
1.a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable in order to suggest a resemblance, as in “A mighty fortress is our God.” Compare mixed metaphor, simile (def. 1).
2. something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol.PARADOX:
1. a statement or proposition that seems self-contradictory or absurd but in reality expresses a possible truth.
2. a self-contradictory and false proposition.
3. any person, thing, or situation exhibiting an apparently contradictory nature.
4. an opinion or statement contrary to commonly accepted opinion. Edited by KISS, : no time for brian...

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Ringo, Yes! That's what I accept.

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Sidelined, I did not run away. If you followed the thread you would know that I did not run away. The Bible has errors. It is silly to debate anything contained in the Bible. I am done here.

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Brian, Yes! Please understand that I am a spiritual person and leave it at that. I would explain my self here however I don't want to go further off the topic then we already have. Edited by KISS, : No reason given.

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