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molbiogirl
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Message 171 of 237 (460733)
03-18-2008 3:36 PM


Transcript of Obama Speech
Re: Obama's response to the Rev. Wright brouhaha.
Transcript of Obama's speech - CNN.com

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molbiogirl
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Message 185 of 237 (460796)
03-19-2008 12:14 AM
Reply to: Message 184 by Buzsaw
03-18-2008 11:18 PM


Re: Transcript of Obama Speech
I don't know how far back tapes can be had of Wright. It would be an interesting research if one could access them over a long period of time. Methinks they're available but one might have a hard time accessing them.
Had you bothered to read the thread, you'd know that there are literally dozens of tapes for sale. I even posted a link.
There are only 8 minutes (from 2 sermons -- one 5 minute clip and one 3 minute clip) available online.

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molbiogirl
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Message 193 of 237 (460854)
03-19-2008 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by Buzsaw
03-18-2008 11:18 PM


Re: Transcript of Obama Speech
FYI, Buz.
When Senator Obama's preacher thundered about racism and injustice Obama suffered smear-by-association. But when my late father -- Religious Right leader Francis Schaeffer -- denounced America and even called for the violent overthrow of the US government, he was invited to lunch with presidents Ford, Reagan and Bush, Sr.
Every Sunday thousands of right wing white preachers (following in my father's footsteps) rail against America's sins from tens of thousands of pulpits. They tell us that America is complicit in the "murder of the unborn," has become "Sodom" by coddling gays, and that our public schools are sinful places full of evolutionists and sex educators hell-bent on corrupting children. They say, as my dad often did, that we are, "under the judgment of God." They call America evil and warn of immanent destruction. By comparison Obama's minister's shouted "controversial" comments were mild. All he said was that God should damn America for our racism and violence and that no one had ever used the N-word about Hillary Clinton.
Was any conservative political leader associated with Dad running for cover? Far from it. Dad was a frequent guest of the Kemps, had lunch with the Fords, stayed in the White House as their guest, he met with Reagan, helped Dr. C. Everett Koop become Surgeon General. (I went on the 700 Club several times to generate support for Koop).
Dad became a hero to the evangelical community and a leading political instigator. When Dad died in 1984 everyone from Reagan to Kemp to Billy Graham lamented his passing publicly as the loss of a great American. Not one Republican leader was ever asked to denounce my dad or distanced himself from Dad's statements.
Take Dad's words and put them in the mouth of Obama's preacher (or in the mouth of any black American preacher) and people would be accusing that preacher of treason. Yet when we of the white Religious Right denounced America white conservative Americans and top political leaders, called our words "godly" and "prophetic" and a "call to repentance."
Obama's Minister Committed "Treason" But When My Father Said the Same Thing He Was a Republican Hero | HuffPost Latest News

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molbiogirl
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Message 206 of 237 (461004)
03-20-2008 11:56 PM
Reply to: Message 203 by Buzsaw
03-20-2008 8:20 PM


Re: Transcript of Obama Speech
The things Shaeffer said were relative to current events as well as true and Biblical.
Um. Ye---eeeah.
The only difference is ... that which Rev. Wright mentioned is documented fact.
That which Francis Shaeffer mentioned is undocumented fantasy.
Wright's hate-rich-whitey America anti-Israel, pro Palestinian, and and other such diatribes ...
Buzkins. No matter how many times you say it, Rev. Wright's sermons mention nothing of Israel or Palestine.
Shaeffer's son who admits to opposing the views of his father has failed to present a viable analogy.
Big surprise. The old white guy (pssssst ... Buz ... that's you) doesn't get it.

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molbiogirl
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Message 216 of 237 (461070)
03-21-2008 8:39 PM
Reply to: Message 211 by Buzsaw
03-21-2008 7:36 PM


Re: Transcript of Obama Speech
Mobiogirl has missed that and likely you too.
Molbiogirl did no such thing.
There were 2 clips: one 6 minute, one 4 minute. I posted both links upthread.
Since that post, three clips have been added: one 5 minutes 50 seconds, one 1 minute 59 seconds and one 4 minutes 14 seconds.
In 2 of the new clips (5:50 and 1:59), Rev. Wright says nothing but nice stuff.
The 4:14 clip is the "Palestinian" clip to which you refer. It is the same as the 4 minute clip that was posted earlier, with a 14 second snippet added at the beginning.
Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc2FCJ7zWEQ
And here is the extra 14 seconds:
We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and Black South Africans and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yard. American chickens . comin’ home . to roost.
32 years of sermons and you are judging the man on 10 minutes and 14 seconds of video.

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molbiogirl
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Message 223 of 237 (461084)
03-21-2008 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by Buzsaw
03-21-2008 9:07 PM


Re: Transcript of Obama Speech
So why then did you try to alledge that Wright didn't say anything relative to Israel as per my claim?
Because the 4:14 version was posted 6 days ago, you tard.

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