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Message 11 of 237 (446083)
01-04-2008 9:07 PM 		Reply to: Message 9 by Buzsaw
01-04-2008 8:58 PM

Buz just flat pushing innuendo again.
If Obama thinks like his mentor pastor who likes The Nation Of Islam which wants a nation of and by black extremist racists, hating whites and Jews, what has Obama got in mind for whites down the line?? That's the question and the risk in electing such a person.
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Buz, we have been over this shit before. If you keep repeating stuff that has been refuted and shown to be nothing but innuendo, what does that make you?
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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!
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Message 19 of 237 (446130)
01-04-2008 10:18 PM 		Reply to: Message 18 by Buzsaw
01-04-2008 10:15 PM

Re: Bashing Huckabee
In the last Obama thread I cited reliable links.
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Bullshit. You posted allegation and innuendo.
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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!
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Message 23 of 237 (446306)
01-05-2008 3:26 PM 		Reply to: Message 22 by Buzsaw
01-05-2008 3:17 PM

Innuendo.
Buz writes:
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If Obama thinks like his mentor pastor who likes The Nation Of Islam which wants a nation of and by black extremist racists, hating whites and Jews, what has Obama got in mind for whites down the line?? That's the question and the risk in electing such a person.
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You NEVER presented any evidence that either Obama or his "mentor" "wants a nation of and by black extremist racists, hating whites and Jews".
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All you do is post smear and innuendo Buz and not even direct innuendo Buz, you imply that Obama believe like the Pastor at his church and that the Pastor believes like Farrakhan without EVER presenting any evidence. How totally dishonest can you be?
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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!
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Message 37 of 237 (446510)
01-06-2008 2:41 PM 		Reply to: Message 36 by Modulous
01-06-2008 2:34 PM

Re: Race policies
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Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!
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Message 73 of 237 (448086)
01-11-2008 9:48 PM 		Reply to: Message 71 by Buzsaw
01-11-2008 9:28 PM

Re: Buzsaw's Supportive Data ...NOT!
You really don't seem to be able to even tell what evidence is. For example, have you actually read the Qur'an? If so, you would realize that your source is simply quotemining, taking stuff out of context to fool the gullible just like your Biblical sources do.
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Look at your first out of context quotemine:
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Q2.193: And fight with them until there is no persecution, and lreligion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors.
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Actually, the passages from the Cow are only speaking of those who actively attack Muslims.
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Qur'an writes:
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[2.190] And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits.
[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
[2.192] But if they desist, then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors.
[2.194] The Sacred month for the sacred month and all sacred things are (under the law of) retaliation; whoever then acts aggressively against you, inflict injury on him according to the injury he has inflicted on you and be careful (of your duty) to Allah and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
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Fight with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits.
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The rest of your post is similar; misrepresentation, innuendo, smear and falsehoods.
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That certainly is far less evil than many passages from the Bible.
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Message 79 of 237 (448156)
01-12-2008 9:47 AM 		Reply to: Message 75 by Buzsaw
01-12-2008 12:19 AM

Re: Buzsaw's Supportive Data ...NOT!
You mined out the one verse that helps you out of context, added quote mined verses from the Quran and avoided the rest of my context which solidifies my point.
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Not quite Buz. I took your verse and placed it in the context of the verses that surround it. That is placing things in context. Is it possible you do not even know what being in context means?
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You still do not understand the issue it seems.
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The issue is that regardless of what the Qur'an says, it has NOTHING to do with Obama. Let me try to explain innuendo and smear to you in another way.
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If I said that "Buz has a copy of the Qur'an, reads it and looks things up in it, therefor he is secretly a Muslim hiding in Christianity as an agent provocateur to destroy Christianity from within and in the Hand of Satan", that is innuendo and smear.
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You do that constantly.
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The article says a predominately Muslim School and you twist that into a Muslim School.
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The article says his mother was not worried about the Calls to Prayer and you twist that into he had homework on the calls to prayer.
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He has a Muslim father and stepfather and you twist that into he is Muslim.
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He has a first and middle name that sound Muslim and you twist that into he is a Muslim.
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He says he is Christian and you twist that into he is a professed Christian.
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The really pitiful thing is that even if all of your innuendos and smears were true, they still have NOTHING to do with whether or not Obama is fit to be President.
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You twist everything to fit your fantasy. You do that time after time and then claim that the innuendos and smears are support.
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You have NOTHING Buz and everyone reading the thread knows it.
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Message 106 of 237 (448473)
01-13-2008 6:41 PM 		Reply to: Message 105 by Buzsaw
01-13-2008 6:37 PM

Re: Buzsaw's has NO Supportive Data
2. For the umpteenth time, I haven't attacked Obama as being a Muslim. My position has been that I don't know but have questions. I have shown where he was regarded as a Muslim as a youth and registered in schools as a Muslim, etc. I have raised the question as to whether he may be a secret Muslim masquerading as a Christian in order to infiltrate the US Government and undermine the war on terror, support of Israel etc.
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That is called innuendo and smear.
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I have shown as well how closely he has chosen to be closely associated with a radical black racist Christian church who's pastor espouses racist black power and antisemitic agendas and who has connections with racist Nation of Islam's leaders.
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That is an absolute falsehood.
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Keep on posting smear, innuendo and falsehoods.
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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