Divinity of Jesus

Grizz, I will get to this as soon as I can, I am very busy presently.D Bertot

iano writesAnd like all faithful and uninformed Humanists iano, will not be happy until God or the gods do things exacally how he thinks they should be done or some other human with another very different opinion. Tell me iano, excally which human being or group of human beings should God design his plans around. There are so many well-intentioned people out there. Humanists say "man is the measure of all things"., but the question is "What man"?. Hitler, Stalin, Plato? Whos philosophy should we adopt?And like all poor expositors, iano fails to see the glaring part of the verse he quotes which says, "who SUPRESS the truth in wickedness and godlessness"., iano wishes that God would just leave us alone to perform any amount of perversness that we choose. But why would you expect any less from a staunch Humanist. He sees the principle of Free Will in his every day walk of life when dealing with local authorities and understands that his freedom does not imply he can do anything he want without consequences. But when he comes to God, he demands that God do it his way.Your whole post amounts to nothing but crying and complaining, get off the POT as you call it and atleast try and make a valid Damn argument.D Bertot

Sorry, iano, it appeared that everything was counterfactual to the Christian premise, ie: It seemed a bit ambiguous, again sorry.D Bertot

.Your views certainly show a certain insight to the events of those days. I think if we combine, these with the comments of iano, we, kind of get an overall picture, or atleast a close one. I however, I would be more interested in your own personal beliefs about all of these things, are they to be believed as real, historical Jesus, reliability of the NT and the stories that are contained in them. to bring us closer to the original design of this thread by Jon.thanksD Bertot.

I agree completely, I have admonished others to do this in other posts and threads. Autunman, seems very accomadating in this area, which helps us to proceed in a logical and professional manner. It really moves the discussion along. I dont understand much of what he says after that, due to the fact that he is a egghead and I have to read everything he says, 12 or 15 times, Ha, Ha.D Bertot

iano, I think it might be of great value to hear yours, Autunmans and Jaywills perspective (a brief exposition) on the original topic of, is there anything in history that would point to the divinity of Jesus. I would like to hear you fellas perspectives. Yous and these others insights are always interesting . Just a simple explanation from yalls perspective. If not thats fine too. I think Grizz has already set his out aleast indirectly. What do you think?D Bertot