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crashfrog
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Message 67 of 517 (431548)
10-31-2007 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Phat
10-31-2007 7:55 AM


Re: Something else is likely to have happened...
When taken as a group, our EvC former believers are far less militant than the militants at sites such as Internet Infidels . Even our very own Crashfrog, although a proud atheist and advocate of naturalism, seems to enjoy talking with Christian Literalists even as he attempts to ridicule their belief system.
I'm not sure why you think posting on an internet board is behavior that constitutes "militantism", particularly compared to the acts of militant believers:
kill you, on the internets with their words!" No, that's the real-world consequences of militant religion, above.
So, let's stop and think a little bit before the next time we think it's a good idea to append "militant" before "atheist" to describe someone who's just making arguments on the internet, ok?
It has been my observation that many of the people whom you and I talk with on this board who have announced their former fundamentalist, evangelical, or theistic adherence to Christianity have not necessarily left the belief altogether.
I don't go to church. I don't talk about religion with the people in my real life, my neighbors and stuff. When my friends talk about their religious beliefs I nod and say "I'm glad it works for you." When my parents tell me how great it is to pray away my problems I change the subject.
I don't, as a rule, ever find myself thinking about God or Jesus or any of the religious beliefs I left behind, except to frame an argument on this website. I'm just not all that interested in it.
So it's not clear to me, Charis, how I could have left the belief any more than I already have. I mean, I can't have those memories erased, I'll always be familiar with Christian thought an arguments simply as a result of being so heavily exposed to them, but believe me when I say that there's no little sliver of belief hanging on inside of me. And, obviously, in America to grapple with religion is to grapple with the majority religion, in all odds, and that's Christianity.
He may not get the respect that you or I think He deserves, but I am a much stronger believer because of the disagreements rather than because of the agreements.
Around my house we call that "not getting the point." Good arguments against something are supposed to lessen your confidence in it, not strengthen it. But, of course, that's the result of Christian brainwashing - anything that proves Christianity strengthens he Christian's belief, anything that refutes Christianity strengthens the Christian's belief.

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