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pelican
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Message 210 of 517 (462557)
04-04-2008 11:24 PM
Reply to: Message 209 by Dawn Bertot
04-03-2008 9:38 AM


satan's right hand man?
is there anything in history that would point to the divinity of Jesus.
Looking closely at the life of Jesus, as told in the bible, I believe he was an ordinary human being. He followed his own beliefs and persuaded others to believe the same. The outcome of his beliefs were and still are divisive. The good and the bad.
The examples of righteous living have caused more harm than good. As a parent, I would not advise my children to follow him at all. He sacrificed his life for his beliefs, nothing more and nothing less. In my mind, he was closer to satan than god, leading the meek and suffering up the garden path. Of course, it's only my opinion.

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pelican
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From: australia
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Message 212 of 517 (462576)
04-05-2008 9:12 AM
Reply to: Message 211 by jaywill
04-05-2008 6:38 AM


Re: satan's right hand man?
You obviously have strong beliefs that are totally subjective. The quotes you have given from the bible are subject to a belief in god.
"Jesus therefore answered them and said, My teaching is not Mine, but His who sent Me. If anyone resilves to do His will, he will know concerning the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself. He who speaks from Himself seeks His own glory; but He who seeks the glory of HIm who sent Him, this One is true, and unrighteousness is not in Him" (John 7:16-18)
Above, is not Jesus declaring himself to be righteous? Is Jesus not seeking god's glory for himself? How would this attitude be recieved today?
May the heavenly Father have mercy on your children.
He should have had mercy on them when they were little and I was a practising christian.
I am curious. Whose moral example do you find superior to that of Jesus Christ that you would prefer your children would look to him or her?
I prefer my children learn from my mistakes and from their own. I would never deprive them of their life experiences which are invaluable. How can we truly know anything without experience?
He said we would know the disciples by their fruits. So there must be division so that we can see who are the true fruit bearing disciples of Christ and who are not.
It seems you have no objection to the division within humanity. Presumabley you see yourself as bearing the true fruit, otherwise you may disagree. However, I know all humans are equal.
Jesus taught judgement of others. Jesus condemned others. Jesus taught others to suffer in silence. Jesus taught us to sacrifice our lives. jesus taught us not to save ourselves. Not good at all.
There are two sides to every story and christians only tell one.

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