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How Do Scientists Believe in God and Evolution?

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Fosdick 
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Message 98 of 145 (469187)
06-04-2008 12:05 PM 		Reply to: Message 92 by Wumpini
06-04-2008 4:34 AM

The power of faith and the force of gravity
Wumpini writes:
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Did Christ walk on water? Yes. Is it scientifically possible? No.
Did Christ raise others from the dead? Yes. Is it scientifically possible? No.
Did Christ feed 1,000's of people with a handful of food? Yes. Is it scientifcally possible? No.
Was there a global flood? Yes. Is it scientifically possible? No.
THIS JUST IN: The power of faith and the force of gravity are two similar things. Gravity can suck light down a black hole and make it dark forever. Faith can suck reason down the drain of true believership and make it unthinkable forever.
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Message 106 of 145 (469388)
06-05-2008 11:53 AM 		Reply to: Message 103 by Wumpini
06-05-2008 5:28 AM

Re: Evidence
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"There is one thing even more vital to science than intelligent methods; and that is, the sincere desire to find out the truth, whatever it may be." - Charles Sanders Pierce.
Wumpini, your signature quote is bogus. Science has nothing whatsoever to do with finding out "the truth."
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The most in comprehensible thing about nature is that it is comprehensible. ”A. Einstein
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06-05-2008 1:01 PM 		Reply to: Message 107 by Straggler
06-05-2008 12:32 PM

Re: Truth?
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At the risk of going well off topic (in which case a new thread might be appropriate) - What is the aim of science in your view if not to describe and understand the "truths" of reality and nature?
Straggler, I'll respond this way and leave it there: Science operates on testable theories and empirical evidence. Faith operates on unquestionable interpretations of "the truths," which are neither testable nor produce empirical evidence.
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06-05-2008 2:04 PM 		Reply to: Message 112 by bluescat48
06-05-2008 1:38 PM

Re: Truth?
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Hoot Mon writes:
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Faith operates on unquestionable interpretations of "the truths," which are neither testable nor produce empirical evidence.
Then they are not "truths" but beliefs.
I agree with you. “Truths” are the concern of true believers. The rest of us have to settle for facts. However, I still use the word “true” casually, such as, “It is true that I earn less that $100,000 a year.” But I certainly do not use it this way: “It is true that the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ.” One is a fact, the other is not.
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