Cali Supreme Court ruling on legality of same-sex marriage ban

...ah...you're not? What am I missing here?Here's the logical construction: A is not a comparison to B, therefore A is like B.”HM

OK, you win by differentiating arguments from groups. But no matter how you look at these arguments there is an implication that “same-sex marriage” and mixed-race marriage should be comparable in the context of a legal contract. I think it is disingenuous for those who make such comparisons to claim they have no intention of likening the plight of blacks with that of gays.What about the plight of heterosexual married people who feel their institution is threatened by the gay-power movement, which claims to be the successor of the black-power movement? Mr. and Mrs. Smith out in Iowa are very confused about such power movements, especially when they are told that any heterosexual-power movement would be a highly bigoted affair.”HMEdited by Hoot Mon, : No reason given.

You would have to ask them, not me. But I believe that's how they feel, whether or not you like their feelings. What they say they lose from legalizing "gay marriage" may not be reasonable to you. But it's still what they feel. The only way to settle this "gay marriage" issue is have a referendum on it and let people vote.”HM

Isn't that the attitude of a bigot? Where do you get your moral authority, bigot?”HM

Suppose Mr. and Mrs. Smith out in Iowa are sitting on their front porch and feeling very distraught about their son's recent announcement that he's gay and he wants to marry Clifford, the next door neighbor's son. You stop to help them out by telling them that they are immoral and have no good reason to feel that way. In fact, you tell them they ought to be ashamed of themselves for being so close-minded, selfish, and stupid.And then you say, "What's the matter with you people, anyway? You're acting like a couple of degenerate heterosexual bigots."Mrs. Smith slowly raises her head from her knees and says, "You better get your queer ass back on out that Hershey Highway, son, before I get out my pig sticker. What right do you have to tell me what is moral and what is not?"Rrhain, you need to explain why, in the case of "same-sex marriage," a minority can be more moral than a majority. So far all we get from you are your passionate opinions. If you could come down from your self-righteous perch and touch the ground of reality you would know that gravity and marriage are two things that most people regard as being purely NATURAL. Gravity doesn't pull up and marriage doesn't unit two members of the same sex. I've got a lot of empirical evidence on that to show you. You got nuthin' but opinion.”HMEdited by Hoot Mon, : fussing

Your side of the argument most certainly is. Take a look at Message 410. Rrhain claims he's: ”HM

Then I suppose men discriminate against women, and vice versa, in public restrooms.Really, bluescat, this bigotry/discrimination thing has gone too far. At our ages we ought to be more worried about discrimination against the elderly who wouldn't know a Hershey Highway from a hot fudge sundae.”HM

I have made no such assumptions. But rest assured that if you were attacked by real bigots up on Capitol Hill in Seattle”the designated gay haunt”I would bust my knuckles to protect you. I'm not out to do anything to gays except keep their "marriages" out of the law. Neither one of us has moral authority over the other on this issue. And neither one of us should be accusing the other of bigotry. We are only debating opinions here. And my opinion seems to have the weight of consensus, for whatever that's worth.You should have such a "bigot" as me to be your adversary. Would a bigot punch out a skinhead to save a queer? I've already pushed one skinhead up against the wall in Pioneer Square for pissing on a homeless person.”HM