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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 11 of 60 (497879)
02-06-2009 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Huntard
02-06-2009 12:19 PM


Oh yeah, they are treated just like everybody else in the USA aren't they.....
Only if they keep there mouths shut and don't "act" gay, than possibly.

For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 29 of 60 (497960)
02-06-2009 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by onifre
02-06-2009 12:44 PM


Even then they are not free from persecution. In many cases the person who is gay has never "acted" gay. Sometimes people just knowing that they are gay will be prejudism, even when the gay person has never been openly gay. I think it's just the meer fact that they are gay, and not so much that they act gay or openly speak about being gay.
I can attest to this personally. On my first ship as a young Petty Officer Second Class, a new guy checked on board my ship and into my division. He was very eccentric (wore bright colored shirts, highlighted his hair, etc) though not overtly gay. He also seemed to be a very intelligent and emotionally well rounded person. However within a couple months of being onboard during deployment he had already started receiving death threats from several other sailors on board. I befriended him and most of the sailors in our division liked him. However, I had an inkling he was gay just because of his idiosyncrasies and the background he divulged to me (though he never came right out and told me he was gay).
One night, he came to me and told me he wanted to jump over board and kill himself due to the constant barrage of death threats he was getting. Needless to say, myself and a fellow shipmate had to get him off the ship pretty quickly to prevent a senseless death. He left the Navy shortly thereafter.
The point of this story is that because people perceived him as gay he was in danger for his life even though he never solicited himself or even overtly acted gay. I am sure this is not an isolated incident but happens over and over.
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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 56 of 60 (498286)
02-09-2009 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Fosdick
02-09-2009 11:09 AM


Re: You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting
is is pure hyperbola, with hysteria thrown in for special effects. (If I ever saw a gay person being legally tortured for being gay I would jump in and fight to defend that gay person, unless he deserved it, which is possible.)
What is legal torture? So if it is legal why would you step in and help?
Showing your true colors, huh. I have a hard time imagining based on your previous rants that you would jump in and help.
Ah, Mr. Rocket Scientist, "crap" is a noun. Don't you want to use the adjective "crappy" to express your wingnut opinion?
Rrhain, I'm sorry your paper was rejected from Science, but your signature is so old it smells a little, ah, crappy.
LOL, you haven't changed a bit. What are you, 12? Sometimes Fosdick, I think you truly are a child.
You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting.
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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 59 of 60 (498290)
02-09-2009 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Fosdick
02-09-2009 11:41 AM


Re: You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting
Why is homosexual marriage any different then heterosexual marriage, besides one currently being legalized and one not (at least not federally). I guess I am not up to snuff on this?
And how is homosexuality any more related to polygamy, incest and beastiality than heterosexuality?

For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

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