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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
did I mention anything about macro-change? Of course not.
Try actually arguing against what I put forward, instead of creating some silly strawman. RAZD claimed micro-change in language had never been witnessed. That is, one word changing. *Although I see I got that slightly wrong, as he defines micro-change as one word changing into another kind of word. So I'm guessing noun-to-verb or something like that. I'm not personally familiar with such in swedish, but the english word "impact", originally a noun, has come to be used as a verb. If you want evidence of macro change, I point you to the norman invasion of England in 1066 and the subsequent change of Old English into Middle English (and they are two separate languages, as Middle English is somewhat understandable without study unlike Old English). Although that's a somewhat unique case, as it's more like two languages merging to become one than it is one language splitting into two.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
perhaps it would be better if you find the book and read it yourself...i could be reading it all wrong but it seems to me to be saying that all language originated with the PIE and spread out from there. You are most definitely reading it wrong. As everyone has been trying to tell you and which you have steadfastly refused to understand. Your book is talking about languages in the Indo-European language family (or as the Germans call it, Indo-Germanisch). It can indeed be said all the languages within the Indo-European language family originated with Proto-Indo-European (PIE). At the same time, it cannot be said -- as you persist in falsely claiming -- that all languages originated with PIE, because the vast majority of human languages that have existed are not a part of the Indo-European language family. What part of "a non-Indo-European language did not originate from PIE" do you not understand? Some examples of non-Indo-European languages are Hebrew, Arabic, Basque, Finnish, Hungarian, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Polynesian, Aborigine, American Indian languages, Bantu and other African languages. None of those languages are in the Indo-European language family and none of those languages originated from PIE. Yet you claim that all those languages -- indeed, all languages -- originated with PIE. Why? How? For your edification (if that is possible), here's a short list of language families from Wikipedia {List of language families - Wikipedia}:
quote: It has been repeatedly requested of you to support your blatantly false claim that "all language originated with the PIE". Your only response so far has been to blame your book. That response is totally irresponsible and blatantly false since your book does not repeat your claim, but rather only speaks of the Indo-European language family. Yet again, please support your obviously and blatantly false claim.Or else finally get a clue. Edited by dwise1, : Relocated a misplaced sentence
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2325 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
See, it's not science, it can't be recreated in a lab, you're just guessing this is what happened!
While of course we have the English dictionary to prove that English has never changed, and has always existed in its current form! You doubt the great wordwriter of the dictionary! You'll go to illiteratehell! Repent while you can! Believers will be eaten last....Oh wait no, that's Cthulhu. Damn I messed up! I hunt for the truth
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4220 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
pg31. 'the languages of Europe and northern India can be arranged in a kind of family tree that goes back to a single Proto-Indo-European predecessor...'At some point, ALL indo europeans spoke the same language and at some later point various groups must have spread across Europe in one of the great undocumented migrations of prehistory' You are obviously reading something into the passage which is not there.note the bold parts for emphasis. The writer is talking about the Indo European peoples, not all peoples.The PIE is the forerunner to the Germanic, Slavic, Romance, Greek, Keltic, Albanian, Bulgar, Hittite, Armenian, Persian & Hindi, the Indo-European Languages There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.6 |
what is important is that they are saying all languages can be traced back to an original language.
Except that is not what they're saying, your continued misrepresentation is getting very tiresome. soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
you're being way to serious about the "tongue" in cheek parody
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Ya just hafta grok up to the fact that verbing weirds words. But you didn't see it happen, you just have evidence after it appeared fully formed. This is really evidence that it was designed by the great god Heinlein rather than evolution.
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2543 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
perhaps my first post with the "" wasn't enough? should have used another one?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
... should have used another one? No, you just need to be more over the top.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
deerbreh writes: Easier but still very difficult. Which is why if the virgin birth had happened, Jesus would either been female or a haploid male (occurs in bees but not mammals). God's Holy Spirit (male gender) fathered Jesus. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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lyx2no Member (Idle past 4747 days) Posts: 1277 From: A vast, undifferentiated plane. Joined: |
With whom would God have sex that It be called a male?
Edited by lyx2no, : Logic Genesis 2 17 But of the ponderosa pine, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the day that thou shinniest thereof thou shalt sorely learn of thy nakedness. 18 And we all live happily ever after.
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anglagard Member (Idle past 867 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
This all male club of fundamentalist Western religion, including Christianity, Islam, and Judaism sure brings up some important questions.
Seems like heaven to these male-only theists is some weird version of the bathhouses on Castro Street in San Fransisco back in the 70's prior to the outbreak of AIDS. After all, everyone must not only completely agree with them on every issue to achieve eternity, in most cases they have to be direct genetic clones. Sure provides some insight into the homophobia, perhaps like Catholic priests, it is time to come out of the closet. Let's all hope, in the name of God, the worst fundies can limit their desires to those over 18. Edited by anglagard, : not to tar all 'fundies' with a moniker, but let it be said, all too often they reap what they sow. Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 4024 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
Bugger the all male angle, Angla, I want to know how Jesus got out of the womb and left the virgo intacta. Osmosis? :-)
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Shield Member (Idle past 2893 days) Posts: 482 Joined: |
Does a female god exist? If there are no opposites of god, how can god have a gender?
Is satan female?
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
rpb writes: Does a female god exist? If there are no opposites of god, how can god have a gender?Is satan female? All we know is that there is no marriage in Heaven. All heavenly entities mentioned in Heaven are depicted in the male gender. That worked to bring Jesus into the world. The details of how it worked are not given. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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