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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
If folks regard Genesis as a fable or allegory, how do they know the life and mission of Jesus, the christ of Christianity is not also fable. We don't know, we have faith. We are the blessed who believe without seeing.
These folks are not making much sense of their theistic position. It makes way more sense than Genesis being literal and inerrant.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
We don't know, we have faith. We are the blessed who believe without seeing. What an ingenious dodge religions have invented! Using this, anything can be asserted without any accountability.
Yes, it could. I wonder if it was really invented by religions though.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
You using the word "ignorant" wrong.
They were limited in their knowledge, not deceived nor ignorant. Ignorance = limited in knowledge
However, had objective evidence to the contrary been presented to them and they rejected it flat out with no contradicting objective evidence - basically without reason other than personal belief - then YES they would be ignorant. No, they wouldn't be ignorant anymore if they got the knowledge. That they irrationaly refuse makes them something else that is not ignorant. I'm at a loss for a word for it.... perhaps foolish.... or foolishly incredulous. heh, I kinda like the sound of that.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Creation Science is a study of the same evidence that evolutionists study, using the same scientific methods of making observations, establishing a hypothesis to explain those observations, and then testing said hypothesis. Show me the data. Can you point to one of the hypotheses and how they were tested? Can you back up this claim at all?
The simple truth is that the origin of the universe, the origin of life, That origins stuff, sans the origin of man, has nothing to do with the Theory of Evolution.
I recommend reading a book titled "What is Creation Science?" By Morris/Parker All that book does is try to discredit Evolution. Even if Evolution was shown to be 100% false, that still is not positive supporting evidence for creationism. That is still not science.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Kelly,
You are wrong in many ways. Propose a new topic so we can correct your misunderstanding if you care to. This topic is about atheism and is not the thread for me to explain it to you. For example, in the very first line you wrote:
While Creation might discredit the theory of evolution, so too evolution discredits the theory of creation. That's not even necissarily true as evidenced by Theistic Evolution. A lot of what you wrote is PRATT. Points Refuted A Thousand Times. But again, don't respond here as it is off-topic. Propose a new topic.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
There's rules here... here
quote: Plus, you're still off-topic. Open a new topic already.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
How can I know that I am not on topic when I am simply responding to these threads the only way I know how. Each thread has a title at the top. The title of this thread is: "I Am Not An Atheist!" You're previous post had nothing to due with not being an atheist.
I read them and I respond to what is written. Oh, its not all your fault, and it usually happens gradually. If you're typing (or copying) stuff and it doesn't have anything to do with the topic/title, then its getting to be time to open a new one. You have written a lot of stuff that covered a lot of different sub-topics so for me to properly reply would really really take the thread off topic. To view all the topics being discussed, go to the All Topics link at the top of the page, second from the right, next to "Chat".
I can't find my way around here easily and I am not even sure how to start a new thread. Another good one is just to the left of "All Topics". It is a list of all the Forums for which topics may be introduced in. If you click on any on of those forums, near the top of the page, before the list starts there will be a button at the right labeled "New Topic". Press that and you will get a link to the Proposed New Topics forum, or just click on that link. There you will find the New Topic button at the right above all the numbers.
My interests are all over this topic of "creation verses evolution." But discussions can't flow unless they are specific, being focused really helps the discussion.
It would be a pain to have to search out specific threads for every remark I have or point I want to make. It seems too complicated. Once you get used to the site you'll see that its not really a pain at all.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
I'll try to comply if I decide to stick around. It'll be your loss if you don't.
In my opinion, if it is that serious an issue to not stray off topic, then the original author of his own topic shouldn't make remarks that would lead others to stray. Definately, you are right. Some people are worse than others. Take a look at this thread. The author went off-topic in the first page (and then someone made fun of him for it). Its not that big of a deal (look how off-topic we are here right now) especially if its constuctive, its just that we all should put effort into avoiding it to make this a better palce.
After 200 some odd replies, naturally the topic is going to be off a little. Of course, and it is expected. All that is expected of you is that you try. No need to reply now, lets stop being off topic.
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