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Phage0070
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Message 58 of 184 (530330)
10-13-2009 1:29 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Izanagi
10-13-2009 12:46 AM


Izanagi writes:
But no one is arguing for healthcare to be solely in the hands of the government.
That is what the opponents of the bill fear, and from looking at it they seem to have a point. The conditions other insurers and providers would have to operate under appear to be prohibitive, and impossible to compete under.
Izanagi writes:
If our healthcare system is so great, why are people going bankrupt to pay their bills?
Because medical bills are a large, unexpected expense that also often puts a person out of work? If they are close to bankruptcy then it seems a likely candidate. Are you saying we should have a safety net to prevent people going bankrupt? Oh wait... we already have one! BANKRUPTCY!
Izanagi writes:
Perhaps we should let greed tear our nation apart as it has torn apart other nations and allow the rich to get richer and the middle class and poor to get poorer.
The rich get richer, and the poor get... richer slower.
Are we really getting to the root of the matter here? I think we are; you think "the rich" owes you. You are greedy, you are practically salivating at the possibility of getting your hands in the pockets of those more successful than you, whatever the reason.
Kindness is helping your fellow man. Liberty makes it a choice.

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Phage0070
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Message 61 of 184 (530340)
10-13-2009 3:42 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by greyseal
10-13-2009 2:25 AM


greyseal writes:
Oh heaven forbid that the companies that provide healthcare should focus on actually providing healthcare rather than the almighty dollar.
People don't make companies to provide services or products, they make companies to make money. People don't buy stock in companies so the companies can make products or provide services, they buy stock so they can get a return on their money.
McDonalds does not make food because they want you to have food, and charge you because they have to. They make food because they can charge you for it.

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Phage0070
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Message 71 of 184 (530453)
10-13-2009 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by onifre
10-13-2009 1:53 PM


onifre writes:
Would you rather public funds be stolen by government agencies, lobbyist, politicians, greedy CEO's, etc... or, would you rather it be funneled back into the community from which it came from?
I would prefer it not be taken in the first place, is that too much to ask?

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